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« on: July 22, 2005, 10:38:27 »
So I'm going to replace my rear springs soon, I'm not going to bother with uprated or lifts.

As well as the springs themselves, what do I need (eg what bolts am I likely to break which won't be included with the springs)

Also, I was talking to the guy who serviced my landy last time, and he was putting small rubber discs on the tops of the springs, anyone know anything about these?  THey were OE bits too.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2005, 10:45:58 »
Rear springs are easy peasy to change (if i can do it then anyone can :lol: )

There are only 3 bolts to undo = top shock absorber bolt and two bolts that hold the spring retainer in. Give them a good soak with WD40 beforehand and they should undo easy enough (mine were a struggle but didnt shear).

My springs had  like a thin rubber sleeve at the top which I can only assume helps to stop the spring rattling in the top spring retainer (just in case you were wondering the springs are not fixed at the top. The weight of the vehicle holds them in).
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 10:48:57 »
BTW My Discovery has no anti roll bars fitted so I'm not sure if they make changing the springs any more complicated :?
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 13:56:14 »
I found that I needed to use spring compressors - even after I had disconnected the anti-roll bar :roll:

You shouldn't need to disconnect the shock absorber though - not on the back anyway.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2005, 14:46:19 »
Good point gords :wink:  I didnt have a spring compressor and I couldnt get the axle far enough away from the chassis with the shock attached. I jacked the vehicle up, held the chassis up on axles stands then put the jack under the axle to lower it gently to the ground :D . Came out easy then :wink:
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 15:09:02 »
One thing to watch for is some people supply two identical springs for the rear (i.e. same part number - ANR3477) whilst this is aparently correct for the Range Rover Classic, Discoverys, like most other Land Rovers, should have handed springs.

I learnt this when replacing my rear springs to correct a 5cm lean to the right. The springs that came off were identical (same paint marking) as the new ANR3477's and once fitted the rear of the car came up 1cm each side but the left hand side was still 5cm higher than the right #-o

A recent trip to Scorpion Racing to discuss a suspension lift, produced the answer. I was shown the original LR specs for springs which clearly shows they should be different each side.

As I am sure you are wondering, my "original" springs came from that well known mail order firm in Matlock.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2005, 16:03:04 »
Tony

I didnt know that :?  My Disco does have a slight lean to the right and the springs on mine are HD RRC ones :-k

Right then HD Disco springs next time then :D
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2005, 16:24:09 »
this might sound silly but what about dislocation cones??

Are they only for extreme offroading with super uprated spings??
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2005, 16:51:45 »
Quote from: "defuzz"
this might sound silly but what about dislocation cones??

Are they only for extreme offroading with super uprated spings??


They can be useful with all springs if you like to do extreme axle twisting stunts :wink:

I have never popped a spring and I have a go at everything with my standard set up :D
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2005, 14:38:14 »
they are a good idea if you are doing the job anyway and have the spare cash. One of my mates had to put his springs back in 3 times at langdale quest....pain in the backside.What condition are your shocks in?
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2005, 00:15:04 »
rear shocks are a few months old
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2005, 08:32:14 »
shouldnt have any probs then, you dont want anti roll bars anyway...honest
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2005, 09:17:04 »
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shouldnt have any probs then, you dont want anti roll bars anyway...honest

You do if you drive on the road a lot - and they keep your springs from dislocating :wink:
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2005, 09:30:31 »
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shouldnt have any probs then, you dont want anti roll bars anyway...honest

You do if you drive on the road a lot - and they keep your springs from dislocating :wink:


O er, I better fit some then :wink:
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2005, 12:27:34 »
I have 2 anti roll bars on the back of the Rangie and one on the front.  No problems greenlaning but for the extreme stuff I remove the rear ones to keep footprint pressure more even and avoid wheelspins.
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2005, 12:35:25 »
Oh, and the reason a RRC doesn't need odd springs is because of where the spare wheel sits.
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2005, 13:02:49 »
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One thing to watch for is some people supply two identical springs for the rear (i.e. same part number - ANR3477) whilst this is aparently correct for the Range Rover Classic, Discoverys, like most other Land Rovers, should have handed springs.


Strange that,  I knew the fronts were handed (tallest on the drivers side) but I didn't think the rears were.
Scorpions own H/D springs aren't handed on the back but they are on the front for the Disco.

I've just checked the parts manual for the Disco and they list different part numbers for the rears on LHD models. For RHD it lists 4 part numbers for the rear springs, dependent on the chassis number of the vehicle,  and all are replaced in pairs on the back!  :?
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2005, 08:02:18 »
As for anti roll bars ,my disco 1 never had em in the first place. For the offroading I do I rely on them dislocating....only way to make your offroader truly impressive is with bigger articulation. Unless you like being stuck on crossaxles or having to drive too fast to clear stuff, which is when you break things.
Touch wood so far i havent broken anything whilst laning...but then maybe i only do easy stuff??
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2005, 19:31:33 »
that looks like a main road awaiting the final coat of tar  :lol:
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