fitting a r380 to a 200 tdi

[seph234]

ive just been on another site and have been informed that you can fit a r380 onto a 200 tdi all you have to do is change the spigot bush  for the later type. just wondering if any1 on this site has done this to there 200tdi disco thanks. joe

[Niel]

Fitted just before we bought it, but yes they do fit.

[wizard]

I put one in my 200 a few months ago, and didnt change [!Expletive Deleted!] all. Lobbed it straight in.

wizard :twisted:

[seph234]

looking good then. ive got the usual backlash and i am going to change in the near future so i think il go for the later box at least i wont go in reverse when im looking for 1st :lol:  cheers joe

[diesel_90]

Ive got a disco 200tdi in my 90 on a lt77  box  So if i take out the lt77 i can put in a r380 without any probs

True :?:

[Andy.]

Can I ask why people would put a different gearbox in, are they better units  :?:

[seph234]

well i see it  that if land rover changed to the r380 on the later ones it must be better, otherwise why change from the lt77 and from driving my mum and dads 300tdi disco the box feels a lot smoother than my 200tdi with the lt77 in it or it might be that mine has double the miles on it  :lol:  but i thought if the r380 fits il try it :D

[strangerover]

From what I have been told by leggs, if the R380 was from a Diesel then it will fit a 200TDi if the R380 was from a V8 you need to change the input shaft and bell housing... so I'm told... unfair as I have a R380 for a V8

[seph234]

well i started it tonight i have the box out and the the new clutch is fitted so far so good i have modified the hole where the handbrake cable goes through and have taken the electronic speedo off of the new box ready for my 200tdi speedo cable. fingers crossed all goes well tomorrow morning and it should be back up and running by lunch time :D

[thermidorthelobster]

I'm not sure if the R380 is particularly a better box - they tend to snatch into second, but apart from that it doesn't seem to drive much different to an LT77.  But R380s seem to last longer.

[strangerover]

"But R380s seem to last longer."

May sound silly.... but is that not a sign they are better ? because they last longer ?

[muddyweb]

The R380 *should* last longer as it has a higher maximum input torque than the LT77.  They are also *supposed* to have a smoother gearchange.

But... these are LR gearboxes we are talking about... so there are no guarantees..

[datalas]

Dad's R380 has lasted a reasonable amount of time, although that has lost synchromesh on a vast number of gears (first and second, tis on it's way out in third)

having said that, it is more or less pot luck as to how it will survive but you certainly hear fewer complaints about the 380 than the lt77..

[thermidorthelobster]

Most of the problems with the LT77 seem to be with the spline wear on the main shaft, which is sorted with later versions anyway;  hence me not being sure if the R380 is really that much of an improvement.  Certainly in daily use you're not going to notice much difference, I would have said.

[datalas]

they'll hopefully notice some difference, reverse is in a different place :)

joking asside there is a noticable difference between the two gearboxes, the R380 from my experience feels softer in the gearchanges.  Although there may be a moderate amount of hallucination going on there... :)

[seph234]

well its in and all seems fine fingers crossed no more backlash. i will say that it wasnt as easy as i thought and there is quite a few fiddly jobs that have to be done for it to work ie: speedo cable had to be ground down to fit, needed to fit new pipe for the slave cylinder,mounts have to be swapped from old box,hand brake cable needs modding and the centre console needs trimming for transfer box lever to be able to go into high range apart from that all fits ok :D