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Offline drmike

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« on: October 24, 2005, 20:15:45 »
I know you can beef up your drag link etc. by sliding over some steel pipe of a suitable diameter. I assume I just measure up the diameter and pop donw and buy the pipe - is there any special quality of steel to buy. Any dumb pitfalls I can tumble into?

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2005, 20:33:13 »
I don't really know what pitfalls there are regarding material etc.  I have heard of people stuffing the inside of the tube with masking tape to stop them rattling and others stuffing them full of grease to help them 'rotate'.

I am beginning to be of the opinion that at the reasonable price of some of the off-the-shelf strengthened bars (Sumo/Danbars/QT) etc. there is hardly any point in doing anything else - and I am ususally the first person to try and save spending money! :lol:

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2005, 20:42:04 »
The big problem here is that your local steel stockist probely won't keep the correct diameter of 6mm wall tubing in stock, i found out this when i tried to save some money, they only order in 7 meter lengths and it costs about £180, so unless a few people want them it isn't worth the outlay whan you consider a Danbars is only about £30.

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2005, 21:09:16 »
You can get a Dan bar for 30 quid - where from?

As to buying a full length I may be able to get round that as there a number of stockists and fabricators round me and they all seem stunningly frendly and helpful.

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2005, 21:18:31 »
I recently got a danbars for topple for £30 from simmonites, adnitedly it was at the malvern show.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2005, 21:26:08 »
OK I'll enquire of them and see they can offer.

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2005, 21:40:34 »
LC 80 series 1993. 285/75/16s Cooper STTs, OME 850s on the front with 25mm packer, 868s on the rear. 4.88 diffs. Winch bumper with 12000lb winch. Factory lockers. HD rear bumper with wheel carrier and winch mount.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2005, 21:50:03 »
I know of them but I had the idea they were pretty expensive and I couldn't find the steering bars on the web site. There's Kensons as well who do bars with ends and all for about a ton I think.

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2005, 22:59:23 »
http://www.sumobars.co.uk/

£82 the pair - excellent quality.

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2005, 07:09:49 »
I hadn't realised that they had a web site - £82 become £108 after delivery and VAT though.

Still they are one of the 'original and best' aren't they.

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2005, 08:38:13 »
Or try direct from Matt Lee

01302 310468

Scorpion sell 'em, too.

As do Devon 4x4!  :wink:

FWIW I paid £34 for mine.

The Kenson bar is a complete, thicker, steering bar as opposed to just a reinforcing tube, hence the price increase.

When you re-assemble the steering bars, use a smidge of copper-slip on the thread on the ball joint - it makes than a cinch to replace in the field.

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2005, 17:23:19 »
I fitted the Kenson bars to the 110. The £100 goes to £115 after carriage is added, but they are supplied as a pair and complete with the 3 track rod ends.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2005, 17:31:18 »
I got mine from Nene Valley tyres - none of the slide over stuff, but the Solid ones complete with Track rod ends all for around £80.

Well tuff.....can jack the motor up on them (if I wanted to) :wink:
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2005, 14:45:21 »
So where is best then and cheapest?

I run a steering guard from Devon but we all know they are never enough!!

All your quotes range from £30 to £130!!!!

For a challenge truck, what do people recoemmend then?#

Im putting two new axles on this weekend so now is a good time to fit one i'd say!!!
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2005, 18:16:37 »
im looking at replacing mine with a sumo bar as when i went to undo my trackrod end it sheared off and the end seems like its siezed solid in the track rod so i thought what a good time to change :lol:  if you look at the website why is the track rod a different length from a disco to a defender dont they use the same axle?
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2005, 19:13:44 »
the track rod is a different length for a disco & defender as the disco uses 2 rh thread TRE's & an adjuster where as the defender uses a RH & LH thread TRE,

Got sumo bars on the racer & pulled a kirbstone out the ground with the TR on a compsafari & didnt mark it much,although Just in case i carry a spare drop arm & drag link & TR tubes & ends
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2005, 20:23:31 »
so can i use a defender trackrod with left and right hand threads on my disco
200 tdi disco
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2"lift bearmach springs pro comp shocks
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2005, 21:14:40 »
yes but only if you move the steering damper to the defender position
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2005, 21:39:44 »
aaahh yes i already have a wizard kit on :D
200 tdi disco
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2"lift bearmach springs pro comp shocks
1"body lift
rock sliders
diff guards
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rear arches cameled
wizard bits steering damper relocation kit
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now own lc colorado 2000 x reg 30td  and loving it!!!!

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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2005, 22:00:15 »
the defender bars falls in the hole like a pinky in an a..... better not say that  :lol:
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2005, 22:12:14 »
yes keep it clean but i get what your saying :lol:
200 tdi disco
bf goodrich muds 265/75/16 on mods
2"lift bearmach springs pro comp shocks
1"body lift
rock sliders
diff guards
safari snorkel
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rear arches cameled
wizard bits steering damper relocation kit
sumo track rod####sold it#

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2005, 08:19:16 »
I thought the axles on a Disco and Defender were quite different mine are I'm sure - although I dare say over the years they may have rationalised this.

Mike

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2005, 15:18:32 »
Buy a QT bar, job done, youll never look back
Solid, not a tube, cant go wrong
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