cheap fuel my A%%

[muddysteve]

seem this on another forum i frequent

http://www.pipelinecard.org/

looks like a scam to me, easyway to get lots of personal info etc.

what does everyone else think?

Steve

[keithdixon]

The idea's good,

but will never work


People buy fuel when the need it, they try to stick to a garage / brand of garage but when the needle drops then the closest one does.

[hobbit]

Interesting, but I would like to see more details before I give any.

If the saving could be what they say, people would more than likely plan to fill up at the right places, especially if they get a deal with a main dealer, remember some garages are fed by the same main dealer although they have as different sign above the pumps

[muddysteve]

the thing is it cant work and wont make diddly squat difference to the fuel prices

its similar to the only buy from one seller only blah blah schemes that have been banded about

 

Let me inform you how the fuel distribution system in the UK works.

Around the coast there are number of refineries each one controlled by a major oil company. These refineries are linked either by underground pipeline or by rail to a number of inland fuel distribution depots which are in turn owned by other oil companies. Every oil company shares the pipeline, rail distribution and inland distribution centre of its fellow oil company in a type of reciprocal agreement. For example BP supplies the whole of Scotland with its fuel, which is then sold in every other oil company branded site. In return BP can service its own branded sites in England and Wales with fuels from depots owned by Esso, Texaco, Total etc.

The pipeline consists of one large bore pipe through which each grade of fuel is pumped by the million of gallons, and when say the u/l tanks are full in the distribution system, kerosene is then pumped along the pipe. At the point when the changeover is made there is a large chunk of fuel which is a mixture of U/L and kerosene being pumped through a pipe into a settlement tank in the distribution centre where the mixture is allowed to settle and the specific gravities of each fuel allows the fuel to be seperated by gravity and filtered off.

there fore unless we all stop buying petrol in scotland we wont hurt BP

or stop buying it in the south we wont do any harm to esso/exxon

 

just my 2p

 

Steve

[muddysteve]

just as a little tip, kerosene, diesel and heating oil all are all pumped through together  :?:    and the red dye is added at the distribution depot.

Steve

[suzota]

what personal details.
they have my spare email address and my name. thats all
it looks like a plan to get a club card type thing where members get a discount for loyalty.

[TimM]

Not really related to the original point, but to add to Muddysteves text:

I've seen how the fuel is then sent out from a distribution centre, ALL the lorries turn up and fill up with THE SAME fuel, lots of lorries, lots of brandnames on hte side. The lorries then drive into a 'parking area' where they add there 'special formula' which is no more than a jug full (wasn't close enough to see properly) added to a whole tanker full of fuel.

Don't belive the hype about say - Esso fuel is better than Texaco, IT'S 99.9999% THE SAME!

Just my 2p to add to yours (so that's 4p now!)  

[muddysteve]

Just my 2p to add to yours (so that's 4p now!)  

i dont know if we keep adding 2p we'll be as bad as the oil companies

Steve

[muddysteve]

also if its not a scam and completely genuine imagine the scene

ben scammel gets 5 million people signed up and goes to see the CEO of BP

ben says "will you offer us a discount if all our members only buy fuel from you"

Mr BP "not a hope"

Ben "ok we wont use BP fuel in any of our vehicles then"

Mr BP "like to see you try"

while the oil companies are making huge profits its not from selling petrol to motorists so i dont think they're really going to care to much if everyone buys from esso, total etc as most of it's BP oil in the 1st place

Steve

6p now  :lol:

[thermidorthelobster]

The flaw with all these things is that the retailers don't make much profit on the fuel.  The government takes the lion's share, with the rest going to the producers, refiners, distributors etc.

With such a fuel card, it works at the retailer level, so you're asking for a discount from the one person who makes virtually no profit on the whole transaction.

The forecourt businesses of companies like BP and Shell are run totally separately from their exploration & production businesses.  The forecourts will just buy fuel at the market rate from wherever they can.  So the idea of going to BP and negotiating a discount right up and down the supply chain is totally unrealistic.

So I don't think it'll work.  My advice would be, if you want to save money on fuel, either overthrow the government and get that 72p tax cut down, or buy a more economical car.

[Siecroz]

My advice would be, if you want to save money on fuel, either overthrow the government and get that 72p tax cut down, or buy a more economical car.

Lets overthrow the government.. that way we can keep using the 4x4's !!

 :twisted:

[thermidorthelobster]

I'm up for that - cheating, lying, disingenuous, megalomaniac scumbags.

[muddysteve]

I'm up for that - cheating, lying, disingenuous, megalomaniac scumbags.

as the fat bloke with the long hair said "you took the words......."


Steve

[thermidorthelobster]

Oh, I forgot "evil"...

[nick couchman]

It's not a scam - I know Ben and he's also quite well-known on the Lancer register and the Caterham racing circuit.

He isn't giving too much away about how it works but he is convinced that it will and he knows some very senior people in the industry.

I can't see that there is much to lose so I have registered and am eaiting to see what happens next.

Nick