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« on: November 24, 2005, 11:37:15 »
Sometime during the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 this afternoon, 12 'til 2.
There is a vote on the Radio 2 website Should 4x4s Be Banned From Cities?
I'm expecting the usual ill informed nonsense.

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2005, 11:39:13 »
Get your votes in  :wink:

Yes 47%

No 53%

Total votes: 114
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2005, 11:42:53 »
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Get your votes in  :wink:


Voted  :wink:
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2005, 11:48:19 »
Me too.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2005, 11:48:57 »
just voted and the vote is now 60%
will be listening this afternoon
PS not many people voted
PLEASE PLEASE VOTE NOW
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2005, 12:03:45 »
Just voted and the results (as of 12 midday) are

Yes 21%

No 79%

Total votes: 400
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2005, 12:05:58 »
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just voted 30 times brought the vote to 60%
will be listening this afternoon
PS not many people voted


I am afraid, I don't think that this is very helpful.  PM sent.

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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2005, 12:11:04 »
I have voted 'no' btw and will be looking forward to the debate.

I don't think we should be prejudging the debate before it happens.  The BBC prides itself on its balanced and fair view, let's wait and see what is said.

Regards

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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2005, 12:18:57 »
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Should 4x4s Be Banned From Cities?

Yes 16%

No 84%

Total votes: 692
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2005, 12:30:20 »
The ironic thing is the 1st topic is about winter weather. No one needs a 4x4 (in the city or otherwise) when it snows now do they ?  :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2005, 12:33:29 »
Should 4x4s Be Banned From Cities?

Yes 13%

No 87%

Total votes: 1049

Not that it would make too much difference. The Goverment no longer represent, more state what the country wants.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2005, 12:34:33 »
Yes 13%

No 87%

Total votes: 1049


Seems to be moving a bit now

Agreed, at the mo, things are going to be interesting to see how people go on.

My mate is getting a regular stream of breakdowns and half the time I go out with the disco to sort them out, no complaints yet though :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2005, 12:46:51 »
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Should 4x4s Be Banned From Cities?

Yes 12%

No 88%

Total votes: 1421


I e-mailed before the show began:
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Dear Jeremy

Are you a member of the Urban alliance against 4 x 4's? You seem to give them, and their ilk plenty of free pubicity, with very little opportunity for those of us who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles an opportunity to redress the balance. It gets pretty tiresome, hearing all the same hackneyed arguments trotted out time after time.

Yes I drive a Land Rover

Yes it is my ONLY vehicle

Yes I use it off road as my 'hobby' as well as my family car

Yes it is MY choice WHAT type of vehicle I drive

My car is 14 years old, a diesel engined vehicle; it does approximately 30 mpg: more than many 2 WD cars.

The majority of pollution caused by motor cars is is their PRODUCTION not their running life; thus supposedly 'environmentally friendly' vehicles which only last 5 years (if that) are far more damaging to the environment than any older vehicle, regardless of the number of wheels which have power to them.

70% of all Land Rovers produced are STILL on the road; and thay have been made since 1948, how many "smart cars" will still be in use when they are over 50 years old??

The arguments and figures used by these anti 4x4 groups are not even factual; they are figures from the USA, using "SUV's many of which are not available to buy in the UK

Bad drivers are dangerous, it does not matter what vehicle they are in.

If these people want to do something to help humanity, I suggest they go and do some voluntary work in the third world (as I have done) or campaign for a higher standard of driving in the UK.

I also suggest you take a look at http://www.4x4prejudice.org/ this site gives a balanced view of the prejudice we put up with from 'do-gooders' who could benefit the world and their fellow man from more constructive use of their, clearly abundant, free time!



Please feel free to call me if you would like me to contribute further to the discussion."

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2005, 12:52:52 »
nice e-mail Dirty-g
i am listening now and they are talking  a load of rubish :(
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2005, 13:08:59 »
its starting :twisted:
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2005, 13:20:40 »
:o  :o Oh dear,oh dear...just listening to this debate now...I would love to meet this anti 4 x 4 female and stick one of her bogus parking tickets where the sun does not shine...yes I have voted....

 :)  :) Billy no Mates
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2005, 13:21:31 »
here are some points so far:
uses 4 times the fuel
emits 4 times the carbo dioxide
anti 4x4 poetry
diesel 4x4 emits hydrocarbens (so does all other cars)
25% more likely t be in an accident
should be £2000 per year in tax

and the silly cow rides a bike
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2005, 13:22:57 »
Ash is on-air !!!
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2005, 13:23:26 »
Go Ash!
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2005, 13:23:27 »
He's mentioned mud-club
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2005, 13:23:35 »
mud club is on now  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2005, 13:23:54 »
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Ash is on-air !!!


And very eloquent too, but probably to no effect on Berry
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2005, 13:24:26 »
:)  :) Anybody got the Web site details of this silly persons organisation
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2005, 13:34:49 »
Well that was a well ballanced constructive debate! :roll:

You know,  I could have swarn I'd heard that before........same old, same old!
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2005, 13:36:45 »
:)  :) Web Site details of these misguided creatures...www.allianceagainsturban4x4.co.uk
Sad sad sad people...


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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2005, 13:37:18 »
It was pleasing to see and hear that the majority of people are still against silly people such as Sian.  :D
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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2005, 13:40:20 »
Apart for Jeremy's personal view on bull bars, was it that bad a debate?  Both sides were represented.  Well done Ash.

As little as I think that there is any real basis for the anti argument, you have to respect that they too are very passionate about the issue.

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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2005, 13:41:31 »
:roll:  :roll: just sat there and listened to it.....hmmmm. its the same old thing day in day out with this lot. just wish they would change the record.  :?
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2005, 13:43:55 »
interesting comment she made about relative size of vehicles in a crash.

As we cannot ban lorries, buses etc then we should start a campaign to remove all cars that weigh less than 1500kg from the road and help with safety    :lol:
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2005, 13:45:12 »
Don't forget the response site http://www.4x4prejudice.org/
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