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« on: December 04, 2005, 21:41:15 »
...while off roading....happened today at Whaddon :?
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2005, 21:47:32 »
:shock:
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How did you manage that?
You could always refit the tyre, Icelandic style  :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2005, 21:50:07 »
coming out of the "sheep dip", managed to get some muck in the tyre bead which let all the air out and off it came! and that was at 24psi too.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2005, 21:50:29 »
fitting tubes wont stop that happening the only way if you are airing down is to have a set of internal beadlockers or external but for that size tyre i would say put them ones in that have like second air them people from staun make them you have 2 air valves one for intrernal and one for normal  :D keep spinning wheels to a minimum especially when aired down and you will find that it dosent happen :wink:
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2005, 21:52:39 »
If I'd had tubes fitted the air wouldn't have been pushed out in the first place.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2005, 22:18:28 »
Tubes do work if the bead breaks you don’t lose the air in the first place. tire bands only stop the tire coming off after air is lost in the first place.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2005, 22:33:02 »
ouch bet that wasnt fun
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2005, 23:07:17 »
saw some one do more or less the same today as well at a RTV they didnt lose the tyre compleatly like that but still did the job.... 10 minutes later another driver did exactly the same
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2005, 08:43:10 »
Trouble with inertubes if you lower tyre pressure the bead breaks and the tyre spins ripping the valve out. I run "Secondair" beadlocks with pressures as low as 4psi, but thay're expensive
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2005, 15:35:09 »
Actually, the biggest problem is that 'tubeless' tyres are not designed to take tubes. The intenal surface is usually far to rough and damages the tube.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2005, 16:07:28 »
I run tubes in tubeless tyres and wouldn't do anything else for racing.  I agree a method of beadlocking would probably be better, but expensive and the type of system is horses for courses really.  I would only be interested in the positve (bolted) locking of the bead.

The key to running tubes in tubeless tyres is to remove the tags from the tyres and then they do not chafe.  

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2005, 16:47:22 »
me thinks someone else will be posting on this topic tonight :wink:  :)
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2005, 17:55:05 »
only problem with tubes is if you lower the tyre pressure, the constant rubbing inside the tyre can cause the tube to fail.


Theres always the other option........
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Stop hitting things and bustin the tyre off the rim......!



It didnt fall straight off now did it? :D
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2005, 18:32:56 »
No it didn't fall straight off. I noticed it was losing air from around the bead and so made my way gingerly about 30 yards to some water to try and wash out the muck, but the tyre decided to leg it in the meantime. It wouldn't have been a problem with tubes fitted as it wouldn't have deflated in the first place. (assuming all of the above of course, tags removed from inside tyre, etc.).
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2005, 18:49:33 »
They're not remoulds are they? Had someone have a certain well known remould come off a rim out laning.... yes just greenlaning! I suspect the tyre was underinflated to start with, but it was hardly being abused at the time. With a little lateral thinking and some butter, they got the tyre seated again  :lol:

Found a second tyre on the same car with a dodgy bead. Had to deflate that one too, to get the bead seated back in again.
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2005, 19:07:07 »
yes, Bronco Grizzly Claws. Interestingly, or maybe not to some of you, they performed as well as Jimbob's Simexes in those conditions yesterday (very wet and boggy, lots of slippery crushed reeds). (albeit his didn't come off the rims!) :lol:
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2005, 19:32:40 »
And they are both equally bad ON road. Got rid of my grizzlies as i got fed up with the shackleton bomber soundtrack and horrific wet braking.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2005, 20:46:00 »
Befor I fitted beadlocks even at road pressures mud worked in to the bead slowly letting air out over a long period. Then the rim corrodes and it get harder to keep air in. Big tyres seem to be more prone to dismount them selves. One off roader lost three 33x15 in less than an hour. The problem is down to following deep ruts made by vehicles with narrower track. It's better at taking tyres of than the machine at the tyre service
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2005, 20:51:38 »
Quote from: "Bulli"
the shackleton bomber soundtrack

 I think mine play the B side - the Avro Lancaster!
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2005, 21:09:30 »
I have to admit, my Anacondas fell onto the rim at only about 3 psi pressure, and back off again off road at about 12 psi!!

They seem a ....slack.....fit.

I forgive them tho, cos they grip like a [!Expletive Deleted!] in mud!

Maybe worth gettin some bead sealant and running a smear round the beads before re-seating them.
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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2005, 22:12:48 »
Quote from: "hobbit"
me thinks someone else will be posting on this topic tonight :wink:  :)


Nothing escapes you does it!!!!!!! :lol:

I didn't manage to get it off the rim but lost a tyre today as I dropped into a deep rut. I didn't realise at first but couldn't understand what the blast of water was all about.

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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2005, 23:51:35 »
Well I was on the phone at the time with Pat, so it was a slight chuckle there :wink:

Have to get me camera back from him
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