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« on: December 12, 2005, 19:20:50 »
If so did you know you are not allowed in the outside lane of a motorway
(unless told to do so by the police or to pass an oversized vehicle)
This includes all 110 drivers (with 9 seats or more), mini buses and above.
This is (since October) the law.
If you need clarity, contact the Police.
I thought that i'd better warn some of you.
Still cant believe a 110 full of people is'nt a car
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Ps. the word adapted does'nt mean after fit.
9 seats and up is the law, regardless of how and when the seats got there.
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Pss. Ignore the yellow area.
This was stuck on the notice board at work to inform the 7.5 tonnes drivers of the new laws
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2005, 19:33:37 »
8 seats in addition to the driver, so doesnt that mean 8 total is ok, but 9 is a problem????????
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2005, 19:56:09 »
I'd expect this would come as a bit of a shock to 110 CSW drivers.  I've forwarded it to my friend at Land Rover to see what they think.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2005, 19:59:47 »
Quote from: "thermidorthelobster"
I'd expect this would come as a bit of a shock to 110 CSW drivers.  I've forwarded it to my friend at Land Rover to see what they think.


I ended up in an arguement with my transport manager over it.
My view is that a 110 is a car so, therfore, follows car restrictions and rules.
was anyone else aware of this rule change?
What would have happened if *jobs worth* copper would have pulled a 110?
You cant plead ignorance against the law.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2005, 20:35:16 »
Good job that mine (when I get it) will be made into a 5-seater.

I could perhaps understand it if it a 'Hire & Reward' situation, ie; a Hotel operator ferrying guests down the motorway to a Pheasent shoot for example, as they're paying for the travel, food & shooting (hence; 'H&R')
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2005, 21:55:43 »
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: since when have 7.5t drivers taken any notice of that they all think they,re on a flying lap of monaco round here :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2005, 22:11:02 »
My grasp of this is  - more than eight passengers in addition to the driver - 8 + 1 = 9, therefore 9 is OK if MORE is the important word
Still a bummer though if you have a 12 seater !
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2005, 22:41:48 »
Thanks for the info there Jake. Being a 109 owner with 12 seats that is definately news to me, I would agree with v8kenny though that a 9 seater is ok but anything above that, like my 109,  would be a problem.  :cry:
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2005, 22:45:11 »
Quote from: "sleeplessparadise"
Thanks for the info there Jake. Being a 109 owner with 12 seats that is definately news to me, I would agree with v8kenny though that a 9 seater is ok but anything above that, like my 109,  would be a problem.  :cry:


Outside lane in a 109 is fairly optimistic :shock:
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2005, 22:46:52 »
Forgot to mention that on the plus side if you have 9 or more seats and drive round London a lot you can register and not be charged the congestion charge  :wink:  swings n roundabouts me thinks!
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2005, 22:47:48 »
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Outside lane in a 109 is fairly optimistic :shock:


Hey Jim don't be cheeky or I won't drive you home ever again!!!
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2005, 22:48:31 »
how does that work in glasgow then, when the sliproad is off the fastlane of a three lane motorway ....
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2005, 22:55:33 »
Quote from: "sleeplessparadise"
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Outside lane in a 109 is fairly optimistic :shock:


Hey Jim don't be cheeky or I won't drive you home ever again!!!


Cheeky.  Not in my nature, ask anyone. :lol:
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2005, 23:02:21 »
Thats great news......thanks GOV.....what next....
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2005, 23:08:35 »
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how does that work in glasgow then, when the sliproad is off the fastlane of a three lane motorway ....
I didn't think that the legal use of lanes applied to the M8, never seems to when ever I've been on it!!  :D
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2005, 09:04:11 »
Jake, do you know what document this has been taken from?
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2005, 10:07:41 »
Strange language there - passenger vehicles adapted to carry rather than designed to carry?
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2005, 10:38:29 »
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how does that work in glasgow then, when the sliproad is off the fastlane of a three lane motorway ....


On the A1M near Newcastle where the outside lane splits of to become the A194M,  trucks seem to be allowed to use the lane for access to the junction/road, so same rules I suppose.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2005, 17:06:59 »
Quote from: "datalas"
how does that work in glasgow then, when the sliproad is off the fastlane of a three lane motorway ....


I think you will find that the rule will probably only apply to England not scotland... We always get the bum end of the deal....
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2005, 17:27:09 »
Laila's never been in the 'fast' lane, except for said circumstances. So it's no problem for me :D

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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2005, 17:30:32 »
Blimey being a 110 owner is causing me more stress that I could ever imagine. My defender is red I wonder if there are any restrictions on that.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2006, 17:49:32 »
I spoke to a traffic cop about this today and apparently it's not law yet but is coming in. He hadn't realised Land Rovers could have more than 9 seats so if anyone gets pulled over on the M1 in Notts, sorry.

In addition any new vehicles with more than 9 seats are going to have to have speed limiters fitted to 70 mph.
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2006, 18:20:55 »
Thanks for finding that out.
Its been bugging a few of us for a while
(inc BTM)
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2006, 19:32:19 »
Quote from: "Jake"

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Hey!!!
Why pick on me??? :roll:
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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2006, 19:36:47 »
Dvla class a car as:

Motor vehicles with a MAM not exceeding 3500kg having  not more than 8 passenger seats  

minibus is as:

Vehicles with between 9 and 16 passenger seats
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2006, 19:42:13 »
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Hey!!!
Why pick on me??? :roll:


I think you mis-understood why i quoted you.
It was regarding the law on 110's and the various posts we've shared on the subject.
Nothing sinister.

It appears that the law is on your side. (which is good)
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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2006, 20:43:02 »
Which is why new 110's only have 9 seats, not 11 like they used to  :D
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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2006, 20:51:14 »
Quote from: "Jake"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "Jake"

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Hey!!!
Why pick on me??? :roll:


I think you mis-understood why i quoted you.
It was regarding the law on 110's and the various posts we've shared on the subject.
Nothing sinister.

It appears that the law is on your side. (which is good)
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Not a worry, but I don't think mine will see the type of velocity required to travel in Lane 3.
They're not really geared for Lane3 cruising.

If I feel like going fast, I use SWMBOs 'works van' :D
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2006, 09:37:45 »
Quote from: "drum"
Which is why new 110's only have 9 seats, not 11 like they used to  :D


Mine has 12 each with a seat belt ! Still I have read around this subject quite a bit. The DVLA are particulary of no help. One guy said "this is the law I cant interpret it for you .....you need to take legal advice" Ok I said I`ll drive to my solicitor and hope I dont get pulled over.

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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2006, 11:29:25 »
I wouldnt fancy driving a dumper down a motorway doing 25mph!

I knew there were some new laws  about weight limits of vehicles and max speeds which my managers seem to think is the small transit vans posties use is the biggest van that can now do the same speed on roads. anything above that weight is restricted to lorry speeds but I think theyhave got their weights wrong. anyone know of any changes in speeds?
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