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[beast5680]

My 300tdi has always had a very slightly noisy fan belt when cold ever since i have had it, when it warms up its fine.
The last couple of days it has got progressivly louder and persistent so that now it squeals all the time.
Having just been under it i assumed the tensioner was at fault and so replaced it,no change  so delve deeper and it now looks like the power steering pump pulley has moved out of alignment about 5 mm or so causing the belt to rub hard against one of the edges of the pulley, this is whats causing the squealing.
Looking from under the car you can just make out a shiny surface on the shaft which indicates to me the shaft is attempting to move out of the pump, this is not good :(  least of all for my wallet.
Has anyone else had this as i,m assuming the pump has worn internally to the point of near failure although the steering shows no sign of anything wrong although the steering box has a leak from the lower seal as well which has now got worse.
I think i,m going to have to replace the pump and the steering box which i could well do without at this time of year

any thoughts as i,m now thoroughly fed up

[petergalileo]

Have a look on ebay for a pump, I picked a good one up for £8 a year ago !

My air con compressor pulley is very very slightly out of line, mine produces a small high pitched whine.  I have kept it as is though as haveing a V8 it sounds like I have a turbo fitted :)

[beast5680]

just been looking at parts suppliers for prices etc not exactly consistent are they found one with a steering box for £800ish :shock:

[robbie]

I am in a similar boat at the moment as I have a fluid leak from somewhere near the pump, not sure if it is a pipe, or the pump itself.

I found one on Paddocks for around £80 plus VAT and delivery

http://www.paddockspares.com

I have also used them before and found their prices to be very competitive.

Oh, and mines a 300TDi too ;)

[blacknight]

I posted the same question on the forum on Sunday but my 1996 300 TDi disco is shredding it's serpentine belt.

I also eventually traced it to the power steering pump. Looks as though the shaft has moved out of the pump body by approx. 5mm+ causing the lip on the pulley to shred the belt.

At present i am running without a fan so it gave me room to use a hammer to tap the pulley/shaft, everything moved back into it's correct position.

Had to tap back into correct position twice in the last month. I am carrying a spare belt at the moment and check the pump position once a week.

Have heard that on a 200 series the pump is servicable but not on the 300 series. Maybe someone out there knows? Would like to remove the pump to investigate but can't do without vehicle at moment(needed for work & the dreaded Christmas shopping).

Will be watching the forum for responses. Maybe Santa will leave one under the tree for me!! If not i may end up buying one from Paddocks in the new year, about £85 ish.

Good luck

[beast5680]

did you manage to tap the pump shaft back in ok then? i tried but it didnt seem like it wanted to move something must be up inside for it to move though surely?

[blacknight]

Everytime i have tapped the shaft it has been with the belt still in place and under tension.

The first time i tapped it it didn't want to move. Thinking that the belt was holding it back i moved the belt towards the front edge of the pulley(towards the radiator) and then tapped, it moved slightly but not enough so kept on moving belt and tapping until it went back fully.
Next time i may relax the tension from belt before tapping, may move easier!

Maybe it could be oil presure forcing it out, or stopping it from going back into place!

[K9Jim]

my power steering pump went last week :shock:
when i got it to my independent dealer they told me that landrover had issued a recall on my pas pump  :D result, paid half price for a replacement, may be worth checking to see if yours is the same. mine is a 97 300tdi with the original pump

[beast5680]

well had a go at the steering problem today took the pump off for a look and tapped the shaft back in to the housing as has been suggested, refitted and ran it, it pushed back out to the same position again  so i await the arrival of a new one to be fitted

[blacknight]

Well beast5680 you've got further than me. Have a mini weather monitor with an outdoor sensor and it,s not been much above freezing today so the furthest i got was a look under the bonnet and found that the pulley on mine had also moved out of line, looks as though i will also have to buy one.

Out of curiosity did the pump come off easily and did it look like it would come apart for servicing.
Both me and somebody i work with both have mechanical backgrounds, admittedly not in the vehicle trade and both agree that if when this pump comes off that if it doesn't come apart easily, it's going to get cut apart to find what causes this shaft to move out of the pump.

[Skywalker]

Have a mini weather monitor with an outdoor sensor and it,s not been much above freezing today

Tell me about it ..........  been putting new pads in the CrewCab today, simple job, couple of hours .................

add 4 hours to scrape off all the mud, that seems to have set like concrete  :oops:

Taken an hour (n' two large whiskey's) to get mi' fingers and toes moving again  :lol:

Note to self .............  check brakes in SUMMER  :roll:

Dave

PS: best of luck with the PAS pump's guys, just try and pick a warmer day  :shock:

[beast5680]

well seeing as it is apparently shot i took the pump off again(yes it was flipping cold but by now i was too cold to care) it does come off reasonably easy but i needed to take off the alternator for better access and seperate the pump from its mounting bracket to wiggle it out.
if you read the haynes manual they go on about taking the viscous fan off and the pump pulley but i didnt have the right spanner to hand for the fan nut.
you can seperate the pump back off the main bodyto gain access to the pump its a roller type pump, and thats as far as i,ve got at the minute as i had to go and get my other disco for SWMBO to run around in while this one is repaired

[beast5680]

-4 here this morning Brrr :lol:  so i decided to play around with the steering again and fix the doors on the other disco as they decided to not open :roll:
for those of you interested here,s a pic of the insides  of the pump, it seems to be all pressed together as i cant see anything else that stops it coming apart. As far as i can make out if the pump is worn some of the oil pressure must bleed round the back end of the shaft and start to try and push it out

[blacknight]

Same temperature up here this morning. I also ventured outside this morning but all i did was tap the pump shaft back but it instantly moved back out of line when i started the engine!
Looks like i'm buying a new pump after Christmas.

Thanks for including a photo of the pump, it's interesting to see whats inside.

[beast5680]

well just got back indoors from fitting the new pump and bleeding it up and jobs a good un :D  :D  no more squeling from the belt and the belt sits in the middle of the pulley. still got a leak on the steering box but i can live with that for the minute until christmas is out the way

[blacknight]

Well done Neal - problem now solved.

Workmate is so eager for me to remove pump so it can be stripped down to find out problem. He is a man coming upto retirement, who when faced with a problem will not be beaten.
Knowing my luck, i will remove pump and fit new one - take the old one into work - he will fix old one!

As said earlier, think i will purchase a new one come the new year. Don't like the thought of the pulley/shaft coming any further out and causing more damage!

[beast5680]

pays to shop around for the pump as well as the price range is unbelievable i found them between £74 and £250 :?