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December 28, 2005, 16:51:46 »
I have a 300tdi disco c/w a winch + bumper twin batts, steering guard on the front.
The front dips from the back along the body line by 2.5 inches.
It has a Scorpion racing 2 inch lift kit, who have verifried this is the correct kit. so why does it front end dip!!
Therefore can any one with a 2 inch kit installed + winch etc and reasonably level disco please measure from the centre of the front axle say the front hub seal to the centre of the body line which runs below the door handle in inches and let me know the measurements. And again on the rear axle.
As I would like to determine if the back is high or the front is low or/and prove it has sagged due to the wieght of the gear.
I have no other discos to compare with
or any one with a disco please reply with their measurements
Cheers
The measurement I have is at the back 26 inches and the front is 23.5!!!!
Cheers
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December 28, 2005, 18:45:55 »
This problem was brought up about a week ago by another member that has Scorpion springs fitted.
It would seem that Scorpion only make a single rated +2" front spring, where others have two or more ratings on the springs to allow for winches etc to be fitted without the sagging you've got.
Bearmach make several different ratings for their springs, as do OME, and they all give a 2" lift.
One answer, if you don't want to fork out for new springs, is to fit spring spacers that will raise the front end. Only trouble is, this won't correct the fact that the springs are too weak for the vehicle. :?
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December 28, 2005, 18:52:29 »
i dont think disco's generally sit completly level. Mine didnt before i lifted it and doesnt now. Bearmach springs give a rough ride in my experience, and the finish is iffy as well. The common 2 inch lift from them is only 1 inch at the front!
Talk to Scorpion, have you noticed a problem with clearance at the front....are there any symptoms or is it aestetics?
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Reply #3 on:
December 28, 2005, 19:27:51 »
if its a new kit u have to give it time to settle in as well!!
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December 28, 2005, 20:01:58 »
I now have the spring spacers from wizard but would rather fit the correct springs.
Scorpion supply springs to 4x4 Adventure Gear USA and their web site list Scorpion Disco springs winches installed !!!! Scorpion say that they are Nintey 2 inch lift springs!!!
Iam faxing scorpion my measurements in the morning and taking it from their.
The problem Iam concerned with after paying for a Disco 2 DC prop + caster arms I want the set up right, the diff nose now looks to be pointing low which could have an adverse effect on the prop. Because the disco is not lifted enough.
So if anyone with a happy 2 inch lift could reply with the measurement regarding the front axle to the body line I would be gratefull and sleep better
By the way the kit 18 months old
Cheers Lads
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December 29, 2005, 16:55:11 »
Scorpoin Racing are now consulting the people who make the springs!!!
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December 29, 2005, 17:12:56 »
might be a silly question this, but did it sit straight before the lift kit was installed??
If you have any photographs that might show if the front dipped before. If it did, then the problem might not be the lift kit at all
just a thought
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December 30, 2005, 02:33:28 »
As a rule of thumb a run-in standard car should sit with the Panhard rod level, ie the unused axle bracket should be level with the chassis mounting bracket next to the steering drop arm. You can determin the amount of lift by measuring the difference between the chassi bracket and the redundant axle bracket.
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January 02, 2006, 15:50:39 »
I have now checked the redundant panard rod axle bracket to the chassis mounting bracket and the chassis bracket was one inch higher suggesting the suspension was 1 inch lifted. Instead of 2 inches. This must be due to the wieght of all the kit on the front and Scorpion springs sagging(not winch rated!!!)
I have installed a Wizard 1inch spacer kit on the front and now the difference is two inches. Yes indeed!!!
The Disco looks alot better but more importantly the DC Disco two front prop angle looks correct compared to others I have seen in photos. Within 3 degrees.
My only concernis the slider on the front prop now extends to far, which may cause vibrations caused by to much slider slip
To counter act this Wizard is going to make me a Propshaft Spacer as detailed on this site, Home page - workshop- suspension - propshaft spacer.
Cheers lads to all who replied.
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