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Offline Bush Tucker Man

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« on: January 20, 2006, 12:17:46 »
The instruments of the 110 are making me think of organising an alternative arrangement

As we all know the usual arrangement is (L to R; Speedometer, Fuel, water temp, clock (or tachometer)
So, in order to have a far more logical display, I'm considering exchanging the positions of the fuel-gauge & tachometer.
It makes (to me at least) far more sense to have the RPM displayed right in front of you rather than off-set to one side & hidden by a reflection.

Why LR never did this defies logic (what! mention LR & logic in the same sentance :shock: )

Well, I do, before you all write it, production lines, the panel doesn't have to be specially constructed (it can be a usual line item)

I'm just wondering if there's going to be enough wiring loom leeway to accomplish this idea or not :?
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2006, 13:53:04 »
When I added a tacho to my 1996 Defender I removed the analog clock, moved the coolant temp and fuel gauges 1 position right, then put the tacho next to the speedo. No issues with the existing cabling.

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006, 20:06:06 »
when i had the instrument panel out on mine there looked to be plenty of room for manouvering the dials
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2006, 20:27:52 »
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when i had the instrument panel out on mine there looked to be plenty of room for manouvering the dials


I unscrewed it late this afternoon, but didn't have a knife (or scissors) with me for the loom binding, it does look eminantly 'do-able' though.

Ought to be a 'five minute job' :wink:  :cry:
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2006, 21:28:33 »
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Ought to be a 'five minute job' :wink:  :cry:


Famous last words I bet we've all said - and regretted :twisted:  :twisted:
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2006, 21:39:33 »
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Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"


Ought to be a 'five minute job' :wink:  :cry:


Famous last words I bet we've all said - and regretted :twisted:  :twisted:


That's why I 'said' it :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2006, 23:37:48 »
i thought that yesterday now i have non working fuel gauge , temp gauge, no indicators and it blows 10 amp fuses at the push of a leaver.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2006, 11:16:08 »
Been fitting JATE rings this morning (well, one, I need a longer H-T bolt for the other one) then it started to drizzle heavily.
I didn't fancy having the panel out in the rain & standing with the door open, so it's put on hold for another day
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2006, 16:13:39 »
I had a look this afternoon when I got back from my meeting with 'Range Rover Blues' (hello Andy :D )

I fitted the other JATE (bolt still a bit short, have to get another), then unscrewed the dash.

The 'Five Minute Job' will be a bit longer as the loom looks as though it'll require unwrapping, in order to avoid utilsiing extension sections to reach from the tachometer feed to the altered position.
And visa-versa for the fuel gauge
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2006, 20:10:09 »
Pulled most of the loom bining off this afternoon, but it looke like being a soldering gun & extension job, as there's insufficient leeway, as a couple of the wires go to the speedometer multi-plug first & double back.

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On-going (pending further investigation)
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2006, 11:45:54 »
Crimped up some extensions, but not had chance to try them out (maybe tomorrow afternoon??)
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2006, 14:56:28 »
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Crimped up some extensions, but not had chance to try them out (maybe tomorrow afternoon??)

Wednesday turned into Saturday afternoon, but I've done it this afternoon.

Ought to be a lot easier to read it, just got to train myself into acknowledging the new position :lol:
There's (perhaps?) one slight future problem, it feels (you can't actually see) like the steering column bracing-bar is contacting the repositioned tachometer.
The instrument pack screwed back into place okay though
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2006, 19:09:23 »
looking good the btm nice one
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2006, 19:13:26 »
Much better BTM
Nice.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2006, 21:35:06 »
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Much better BTM
Nice.
 :D


Apart from nipping out earlier in it, & realising that the fuel gauge wasn't lit :?

I unscrewed it and had a quick look, I'd not installed the panel lighting bulb in the rear of the gauge :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

Works now
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2006, 16:32:12 »
Please let me knowe where you got those very sexy guages from? Or are they standard in heratage motors?
Thanks
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2006, 23:01:51 »
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Please let me knowe where you got those very sexy guages from? Or are they standard in heratage motors?
Thanks


Sorry, standard equipment, but they ought to be available from a main-dealer

They're manufactured by VDO, if I remember the tachometer label properly

http://uk.vdo.com/products/
The 'Key Out' looks like an interesting product (it's what the Police use, so they can leave a vehicle running & unattended)
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2006, 07:58:15 »
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"

http://uk.vdo.com/products/
The 'Key Out' looks like an interesting product (it's what the Police use, so they can leave a vehicle running & unattended)


I've got one of these on the 110 - excellent for defrosting/warming the truck on a cold morning  8)

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