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« on: January 22, 2006, 19:01:09 »
I have a new landy which has a 4203 / 3.3 Litre Diesel and was wondering if anybody has a exploded diagram of the engine or any infomation about the engine. If you know anywhere on the internet which has infomation would be helpfull. ANYTHING.....

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2006, 20:47:39 »
My dad used to have a 4203 in a lwb s3.  I contacted Perkins Engines in Peterborough with the engine number and they were able to tell me when it was made, what it was originally fitted in etc.  Sorry, don't have any more info, but maybe worth a call/browse:  www.perkins.com.  Paul
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2006, 08:25:42 »
hi miniman
 i have a 4203 workshop manuel let me know what you need from it and i will  get it photocopied for you
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2006, 18:23:52 »
Thats brill. A exploded diagram of the engine would be great. Do you have a flatbed scanner as that would be alot easyer for you or do you know anybody who has. Do you run a perkins if so What is it like. Do you go through gearboxes and diffs like people say.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2006, 22:02:56 »
Look at you locations your virtually next door to each other :wink:
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2006, 22:35:46 »
Yes I did notice this but have not thought about that. May be I could pop over and have a look. Or may be if you can trust another MC borrow it for a week and fetch it back after a week on my scanner. I will of course leave you my address and phone No. Can give you my No over a PM if you wish to talk. I can call over in my series 3. You can have a look at my MODs......
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2006, 10:04:06 »
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2006, 16:30:04 »
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Do you run a perkins if so What is it like. Do you go through gearboxes and diffs like people say.


My 1973 RR had a Perkins 4203 engine, made at their works in Spain. It would have been fitted pre-1982 when the car returned from overseas and by the time I replaced it with a Land Rover 3.5EFi in 1998 it was terrible.

It was very noisy, heavy (special springs were fitted) and gutless (about 69bhp). The thermostat housing (different on yours) was so tall it made a dent in the bonnet. The last straw was the leaking (nay, pouring) rear crankshaft oil seal. This was the old rope, not neoprene, type, very awkward to fit (you must not touch it according to Perkins) and not helped by the groove it had worn in the output shaft.

It didn't cause any problem with the OEM gearbox, transfer box, overdrive, nor diffs.

I suppose an engine intended for fork lift trucks, tractors and combine harvesters is not an ideal choice in a car, even a work-horse Land Rover.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2006, 16:46:23 »
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Do you run a perkins if so What is it like. Do you go through gearboxes and diffs like people say.


The last straw was the leaking (nay, pouring) rear crankshaft oil seal.


This I can explain. It was not leaking it was just marking its spot.  :lol:

And also if its losing oil then it means its always getting new oil. My oil seal on the 2.25 is leaking and its not a pretty sight outside my house. I would not mind but I have just changed the gearbox and then it started to leak. I should have done it I know..... :cry:
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2006, 20:25:01 »
my p4203 leaks oil out of the same seal got the gasket just not got round to fixing it
 saving me a fortune on waxol lol
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2006, 23:29:46 »
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my p4203 leaks oil out of the same seal got the gasket just not got round to fixing it
 saving me a fortune on waxol lol


Your'e lucky if the oil ends up somewhere useful. Puddles of oil saw me banished from the office car park to an unsurfaced yard 1/4 mile away: that was bad news!  :(

If you do get around to replacing that seal, you really need to have the shaft ground, which in turn means stripping the engine. Otherwise the new seal might last 20 miles if you're lucky.

Someone bought my P4203 to fit in a boat. Much more appropriate and at least you can control where you empty the oily bilge water.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2006, 19:14:59 »
:lol:

I had a series like that, never needed an oil change, got a rolling one every month or so with the leaks and burning, just change the filter now and again :lol:
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2006, 19:38:03 »
the only problem is the fact that i can only get 42 mph out of gerty now :shock:
am going to fit an overdrive but i don't know how much more i will get ?
any ideas anyone?
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2006, 18:37:20 »
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the only problem is the fact that i can only get 42 mph out of gerty now :shock:
am going to fit an overdrive but i don't know how much more i will get ?
any ideas anyone?

The injector pump has a govenor inside so there is always the possibility of making it rev a little more.
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2006, 19:03:42 »
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the only problem is the fact that i can only get 42 mph out of gerty now :shock:
am going to fit an overdrive but i don't know how much more i will get ?
any ideas anyone?


Try rangy diffs
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2006, 07:34:55 »
ok trying thegv and getting somediff's ta guys :D  :D
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