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« on: February 27, 2006, 16:58:01 »
OK, have had the clutch replaced (the full setup, cylinders, pipes, clutch, bearing, fork, bit the bearing slides along) and its still doing what it was doing before i had it done!!  Basically the clutch is really low, and crunching into 3rd gear and reverse!!

Have spent out £250 on this so far and would obviously like to get it sorted now!

Is it likely to be the gearbox, is it worth me having that replaced?
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2006, 17:02:41 »
Could be the damper? Round cylindrical thing just below the master cylinder on the bulkhead.
Could possibly be a dodgy pressure plate on the clutch too - had that happen to me before  :evil:

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2006, 17:04:17 »
Its a fully brand new replaced clutch, no existing parts of the original clutch remain (apart from in the passenger footwell!).
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 18:39:03 »
It was a fully brand new pressure plate too  :(
We took the damper out of circuit in case the diaphragm had gone and was taking up the fluid travel but it turned out to be the pressure plate.

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 19:08:39 »
But its doing it on both pressure plates, i think the pedal might need adjusting, a mate says you adjust the pedal on a series, why not on a disco?
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006, 22:47:11 »
it might be worth trying to re bleed the clutch??

does it go into 1st gear easily enough??

just a thought but have you changed the fluid in the gearbox?It may be worth draining that if not to see if there are any bits of metal loating around, is the gearbox noisey when driving.Just some things to try before the expense of a new gearbox,

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2006, 12:28:34 »
I dont know how to drain or refill a gearbox (refilling is obviously the more important part!)
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006, 13:39:36 »
Now from what i gather the clutch pedal should be level with the brake pedal, well on mine the clutch pedal is lower than the brake pedal, enough so my foot cant slide from the clutch to the brake!
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 23:08:07 »
you can adjust the clutch pedal on a 200 tdi discovery.where the master cylinder plunger bolts to the clutch pedal . simply slacken the locknut then turn the bolt head.this will raise or lower the pedal height .if you turn the bolt so that the pedal is at it's highest this will give you more travel on the clutch.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 23:14:05 »
Quote from: "Disco200TDiDan"
Now from what i gather the clutch pedal should be level with the brake pedal, well on mine the clutch pedal is lower than the brake pedal, enough so my foot cant slide from the clutch to the brake!


That's you problem then, you've had everything clutch related swapped to no avail, so check that off your list.  I'd hope it's not the 'box for your sake.  Is bitting point in 1st really near the floor?  Does the pedal feel spngey for a while before going hard?  They can be a b****rd to bleed, try slackening off the union on the master cylinder and bleeding from there first, and/or use an eezy-bleed.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006, 23:16:42 »
It was done in a garage but its made no difference.  With any gear you have to near on put your foot through the bulkhead to change it.  Also you cant change gear at high revs, cos it wont engage properly cos i dont think the clutch is going far enough, i am thinking there is possibly more than one clutch master cylinder.

Am going to take it tomorrow to me local stealer and see what they say, cos the head mechanic is [!Expletive Deleted!] hot on older discoverys.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2006, 21:13:04 »
did you find out the reason for the poor, pedal just had the same problem only had half a clutch pedal after replacing the clutch.fork,pivot,slave cylinder,and it yes was a pain to bleed..drove it for 200 miles then the pedal went to the floor and stayed there.took the slave cylinder off and the fork is doing nothing need to strip it out at the weekend oh joy!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2006, 21:25:41 »
Hi mate, have you checked the slave cylinder yet.....!!!!!...I had to bleed my one for about 30mins before I got my clutch back...If it is ok after bleeding the slave cylindet then chances are you have a leak in the rubber seal and the oil is sitting in the bottom of the bell housing...!

If this is the case remove the drain plug and let it out, a new slave cylinder is about £20 and not to bad to fit..

Hope it is this buddy.

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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2006, 21:40:07 »
hi i thought it was that but it was a new slave cylinder i put in and its not lost any fluid and its not leaking from under the seal.when i took it off after losing the pedal i could pushed the fork in and theres no resistance, so something has fell off or broke,cant bleed it any more until i find out what has happened inside the bellhousing...
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2006, 21:51:49 »
Yeah I could do that with mine to, must have to go in a bit further though, you cant get in there to far with your finger (oh er missus)...I checked and re checked to make sure the little plunger arm was lined up with the fork and fitted it, bled it and it worked..there is a little clip that goes on the plunger arm on to the fork, has this gone missing...

P.S...I was actually talking to the other guy but hope I can help you aswell matey.

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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2006, 22:07:55 »
Well we adjusted the pedal (local landy dealer did it for no charge) and that helped it, but they said it was the damper if everything else had been replaced, so i have a damper here just not fitted it yet.  The vehicle is up for sale currently so will sell it with the new damper (unless i fit it first).
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2006, 22:12:34 »
ooops sorry about that it was an old post just wanted to know how he got on at the garage cheers anyway.....
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2006, 22:24:28 »
My Bad....... :D

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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2006, 22:32:21 »
Quote from: "Discotel"
My Bad....... :D

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