Engine Reliability

[Evilgoat]

Following a hilarious post about how reliable Evo and Scooby Engines are I thought I'd pop a post up here to see what you guys think.


So
Which Engines do you rate? This is Petrol engines BTW. I realise in terms of Diesel there's only on true answer ;)

[Bush Tucker Man]

I'd reckon the good old Yank 'push-rod' V8, as the distances involved (& ever demanding buyers) require simple engineering.

Afte all the 'Small-Block' has been around for 50years, as the saying goes;
If it ain't broke.............

[bigfatsi]

Gotta go with German here. In terms of engines that have all the nescesary attributes of performance, economy and longevity then I don't think you can beat em. Regularly doing over 200k without fuss.

In terms of true engineering i don't think there's anywhere as good as British - Lotus, Cosworth and of course most F1 teams Mclaren/Williams etc.

[Tailendcharley]

:lol:  :lol: As the voting is saying...it's the Japs without any doubt...to quote my friend Mr. Clarkson...If you want to go into the Australian outback you go by Land Rover or Toyota Landcruiser...if you want to return alive then you go by the Landcruiser...it's as simple as that I'm afraid  

Bye now

    William no Mates  

[lrmike]

Had to go with the Japs, sorry guys.  I work in a Ford dealership over here and as for the old fashioned pushrod, yes they work very well, but they are all but extinct now.  Too heavy, too ineficient.

I've been inthe industry for over 20 years now, and IMO the Japs make a powerplant that just keeps doing it's job with very little fuss.  We joke about the Toyota and Honda techs over here being just oil jockeys!

Now, as far as great brutal sound and HP   :twisted:   a well set up American pushrod V-8 is the way to go! :twisted:

(Of course, the 7.3L Powerstroke diesel is my favorite, but we are supposed to be talking gas motors here)

[rollazuki]

C'mon guys, the japanese know how to make an engine. There is non better in my opinion.
I agree, you cant beat a big yank v8, for noise/power/evilness etc
but  when you see a twin turbo jap engine kicking out the same power, only needing a service every 10k miles.........Japs win every time for me.

[Cherry Bomb]

Yank V8 every time.

I don't care how well the japs can build sewing machine motors, anything that can push you along at 70mph all day doing 1500 rpm while sounding like a thunder storm gets my vote.

........but my heart always did rule my head. :twisted:

[tenpolequint]

I chose German as I had a great 3 series e30 that just kept on going. But I was pondering with the japanese as their engines are bulet proof and so much power for little input.

[Evilgoat]

Interesting that so many go for japs. Almost daily I hear of broken Evos or Piston eating scoobies :)

Then again we are talking different criteria here :)

[Henry Webster]

Interesting that so many go for japs. Almost daily I hear of broken Evos or Piston eating scoobies :)

Then again we are talking different criteria here :)

Often these are poorly modified engines though or have been thraped to within an inch of their life.

Japanese are generally the most reliable.

H

[Evilgoat]

Interesting that so many go for japs. Almost daily I hear of broken Evos or Piston eating scoobies :)

Then again we are talking different criteria here :)

Often these are poorly modified engines though or have been thraped to within an inch of their life.

Japanese are generally the most reliable.

H

BUT

Audi RS2 20v 2.5T is tweaked to hell, putting out close to 600Hp on some cars from the same 220Hp lump mine has. They just *DONT* die :)

[Jas278]

Japs according to the polls......but German tech ....is good aswell........

[bullfrog]

I reckon the germans.
We have a merc with 127k which drives like new. We have been in a merc taxi with 589K
Japs a close second though.
Mind you my rangie is showing 130k although the engine is an 90k defender 300 Tdi lump. 8)
It still drives well with no smoke and pulls like a train. :D  I need to renew some earths as it sat for several months and they have corroded a little.
I have had just about every make of car and I dont rate french ones much.
It depends on servicing and how previous owners have treated them.
I am renewing quite a lot of parts on my rangie so it should go on for a few more years yet.  :)

[H]

Gotta go with the Japs I'm affraid after spending the last year or so doing specialist mobile mechanicing on Mitsubishi FTO's and knowing of engines in them that have done 200,000 km without a mechanical mishap (considering its a 200 bhp v6 2 liter N/A engine thats pretty incredable) and hearing similar stories about nissans toyotas ect the ajps sure know how to make a very reliable engine. As for the evos and scoob engines not being reliable thats down to the drivers, over tinkering or the feeling that the have a co-driver reading pace note everytime they turn on the engine and must complete any jurney in the least possible time regardless of motoring bylaws.
H

[laser_jock99]

I've voted Jap as the two most trouble free engines I've had so far were Japanese.

My Toyota Camry (2.0L petrol) broke its cambelt at 175,000 miles. My Hilux Surf engine (3.0L TD) is due a new head gasket but other wise still okay after 168,000 miles. In comparison two Rover engines (both 1.6 petrol) and a Vauxhaul engine (1.4 petrol) all gave up at around 100,000 miles.

A lot is down how thorough you are with servicing and how much abuse the engine gets- but a good engine design helps!

Just my experience.

[gecko]

i say jap  but after my isuzu engine was a pane in the backside

[dew1911]

Voted German as any car that can spend it's days going up and down the Autobahns at 130, and not give any problems has to be bullet proof.

[littlepow]

No Honda Vtec engine has ever been returned with a failure, excluding ancillaries.

So might be the japanese.

[muddyjames]

well I would like to go with the toyota engine from what abuse the top gear lot did to that pick up but.................





I have a rover 620 with the honda engine in and that is fantastic (as I go and hug a tree) as my engine before I submerged it did 190k. I find it is the bits bolted on that give problems like cv joints. The rover parts in other words.

So what ever country makes honda i vote for them.

[Grant]

Volvo engines used to go on for ridiculous mileages but i suppose they use Ford lumps now?

[clbarclay]

Volvo engines used to go on for ridiculous mileages but i suppose they use Ford lumps now?

I would say volvo are probably the best, theres a volvo in the states with well over 2 million miles on the clock and still counting. The only time anyone has gone inside the engine was to put on a new set of piston rings.

However i've known good and bad engines from most countries, so its not just a straight forward 'this countries better'.

[Evilgoat]

Good point, should have put Sweedish in too :)

AFAIK Volvo still use their own engines.

[Tyke]

Just for the record, my last Toyota did a tad over 265,000 miles, trouble free and on minimum services.

Only got rid of it cos it was knicked and returned with the bodywork smashed up  

Wasn't really worth the repair after that - was gonna go for the ½ millon once it turned the 250k


So there you have it, IMO jap motors can be pretty much bullet proof.


Back on the Brit stuff again now though - spanners every wekend time  

[Cherry Bomb]

OK own up who's voted for British engines????  :shock:  

(There's nothing like blind patriotism! :lol: )

[Evilgoat]

I interested who voted for french?

[DaveS]

Honda are brilliant, my boss had an accord that did 250,000 and was still going strong. My Civic diesel has a brilliant engine.

V8s are good though mine has 122000 and uses no oil. Had head gaskets done though.

Our local taxi firm has Ford and Vauxhall diesels which have done 200,000 plus and still go strong.

The old series petrol lumps are good for long life!!

[Range Rover Red]

My 950 Fiesta (we think it was built in Spain) has already done 185K on its original engine

[clbarclay]

There are always the odd engine that isnt scred together right, but generall most modern engines should do 250k without any problems, a few like the K series had the faults on early on in production but these are generally due to trying to get too much out of an engine rathere than just bad design/engineering.


Its a long time since the likes of the ford x-flow that was good at best for only 100k before a new set of piston rings etc. were needed. Even engines from the 80's if serviced properly are good for around 250k.

[dew1911]

Apart from 19Js, You'd have to be REALLY lucky to get one of those to 250k

[KevH]

have to say german as my syncro has 142000 on its original flat 4 wasser boxer, though had a 2.2vtec honda prelude which was pretty damn good, never had any grief with that upto 99000 when i sold it