Brake Pipe Fittings

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Hi all

Im off tomorrow to go and buy the brake pipe to do the brakes on the 109 I was going to salvage the fittings from the donor but looking at them there a bit a shabby and id rather not use them to be honest brakes need to be 110% no comprimise at all.

Can anyone tell me what the fitting size is for the following

Servo Mastery Cyl.
Front Flexis
Rear Flexi
Rear T Piece
Rear Cylender

The plan is if they have them to get the fittings why im there but I can always order online if need be  I should be able to get the pipe easy enough theres enough motorfactors in the speke area.

All the best guys
Paul

[mark.yellow.series.3]

i got my flexi pipes from padocks, they might do copper pipe and fittings as well.

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Thanks Mark

IF the factors couldnt help was going to go down that road dont want to buy made ones as I have access to the kit to make my own so cheaper to buy the pipe on the roll and the fittings as needed

Ta mate
Paul

[mark.yellow.series.3]

thats what i ws doing today. i bought the flexys from padocks, they know which ones you need if you give them the model of landy. then bought two coils of pipe and off you go. ive got a big wagon type pipe flairing machine and does a much better job of flairing pipe then the cheap screw type affairs.
make sure you copper grease the fittings, and the bleed nipples, as a couple of years down the line after its been in the mud abit as you will never get them undone.

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Thanks Mark

the flexis are not a problem the rear flexi is there its just the copper runs I need to do but I dont know the fixing sizes that I need if I can ill get the fixings at the same time as the coil of pipe from the factors tomorrow just dont know what size fittings I need for the above items or if there the same size.

Paul

[Paul Woodward]

The unions will either be 3/8 UNF or M10x1.0 pitch, it depends on the year I think.
It's easy to get the two confused so make sure you get the right ones!!

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:?   well the flexi was bought new about 4 months back and the t peace the same we recovered the old junctions off one side when we made the pipe but I dont want to do the same again

Im thinking of niping out with the brake pipe spanners and cracking the flexi and the T peace off but I dont think I can do that with a master cylinder as its still attached to the bulkhead.

From memory I think I told the guys at LR supermarket I was running 6 cyl brakes and they said that the rears should be the same as a 2 1/4 not that it helps now sod it for the cost I think ill just buy both and cover the bases I think its going to be the UNF ones but ill pick up one of the others while im there at least now I have a starting point.

Thanks for all the help guys

Mark roughly how much tube did you use im looking front to back on 109 and both sides on front and 1 on rear so im guessin im looking at about 10m with some left over

Oh the joys im going to have in the future lol.

My next project is possible going to be a 110 so mental note buy the braking system in one hit lol

[dave_2A_2.25Turbo]

If an M10 bolt screws into your fittings, they're metrc, if not, they're 3/8th

[mark.yellow.series.3]

:?   well the flexi was bought new about 4 months back and the t peace the same we recovered the old junctions off one side when we made the pipe but I dont want to do the same again

Im thinking of niping out with the brake pipe spanners and cracking the flexi and the T peace off but I dont think I can do that with a master cylinder as its still attached to the bulkhead.

From memory I think I told the guys at LR supermarket I was running 6 cyl brakes and they said that the rears should be the same as a 2 1/4 not that it helps now sod it for the cost I think ill just buy both and cover the bases I think its going to be the UNF ones but ill pick up one of the others while im there at least now I have a starting point.

Thanks for all the help guys

Mark roughly how much tube did you use im looking front to back on 109 and both sides on front and 1 on rear so im guessin im looking at about 10m with some left over

Oh the joys im going to have in the future lol.

My next project is possible going to be a 110 so mental note buy the braking system in one hit lol

i got two 5 meter rolls and i have a good length left, mine a SWB.

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Thanks Mark

Im off to physio in the morning for an ankle problem so will nip over the factors and pick up 2 rolls I worked out 10m's so that shouold be plenty with some spare pipes made up

Thanks again

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well guys got the pipe today and they even do imperial fittings so im going to oreder the new master cyl tomorrow and then nip in next week and get all the parts I need to finish it off so this weekends job is to mount the bulk head and mock up the lines, oh and finish of winding this god dam forsake chassis bush in.

begining to wish I got poly bush kit now :-(

THANK YOU for all the help guys no doubt ill get stuck again soon

[CanIBeFrank]

Hi,

I done my pipes on aa 1982 88" Ser III, I bought a roll of copper pipe, some unions and scrounged a end tool.

The flexi pipes had metric ends, the T junctions were imperial etc. If your going to do it your self it v easy with the correct tool just be prepared for a mix and match :)

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Hi mate

Yeah I got 2 rolls of the copper tube yesterday so think I have plenty to do it and with any luck the one for the clutch slave too while im at it

I was guessing it was going to be a bit mix em match em but im sure we can find something.

Im lucky that a mate of mine owns a garage the specialises in landys  :lol:

Hes got a rather nice flaring tool there so im going to mock the pipes up and then nip in on wed night and flare the ends off iv got a list about 3 a4 pages long of jobs for this wekend and as the landy only has half a back axel and not much else the brakes are not too high on the list really.

all the best
Paul

[mark.yellow.series.3]

Hi mate

Yeah I got 2 rolls of the copper tube yesterday so think I have plenty to do it and with any luck the one for the clutch slave too while im at it

I was guessing it was going to be a bit mix em match em but im sure we can find something.

Im lucky that a mate of mine owns a garage the specialises in landys  :lol:

Hes got a rather nice flaring tool there so im going to mock the pipes up and then nip in on wed night and flare the ends off iv got a list about 3 a4 pages long of jobs for this wekend and as the landy only has half a back axel and not much else the brakes are not too high on the list really.

all the best
Paul

garage, your being spoiled.

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garage, your being spoiled.[/quote]


yup but hes away playing this weekend so not got the luxery just me and the drive way I guess

and I never thought of it as being spoiled when I nip in for a quick chat after work and still there at 2am trying to get a bolt in a bush just to find that it was snowing outside and the bolt was too bloody big by a nats nodger to go through the bush  :twisted:  bushes are evil evil I tell you  :twisted:

[mark.yellow.series.3]

satan must have put thos old bushes in my chassis, coz they were a son of a b***h to get out. followed the haynes book of lies on how to get them out.... no chance had to burn them out v carefully with oxy acetaline.

so went for poly bush this time, piece of cake to fit and same price i think.

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so went for poly bush this time, piece of cake to fit and same price i think.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GOD DAM IT GRRRRRRRR DANG BLAST

sorry

Im still trying to get one in I had alook at the other 3 and they seem ok ish but I suppose its only the shackles that need to come off to do them

iv got this one about 3/4 of the way in but its being a right SOB im having to wind it in take bolt out put space in wind it in take it out being a right pain but its getting there slowly.  

I was told that poly bushes were alot more than normal bushes so I didnt bother I now know that there split bushes and alot easier to do so if this one has to be burnt out like the old one then im going to bite the bullet and by some poly bushes and do all round I think

I want to get it wound home fully this weekend I want to get the front axel on.

Got a list a mile long so the front axel is low on the list.

[mark.yellow.series.3]

i would have got really mad and then bashed this s**t out of it with the sledge hammer, then bought some new bushes.

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This is bush no 3  :oops:


bush no2 basicly met the fine adjustment tool but thanks to some theiving git borrowing it of the response unit and not brining it back iv not got the option at the moment its 2 offcuts of the winch mounting plate were its been cut down with holes in a front shock bolt and a 19" crack bar and 16mm socket that im waiting to go ping the 5/8th one is just as sloppy on it and to be honest the 16 felt better only just but enough.

its getting there slowly i just dont want to strip the bolt or take the head of like I did the last one as iv not got another bolt long enough though I think im getting a trip to B&Q in the morning so I might see what they have and get a couple in just in case.

Actually why im there what type of paint is it you guys painted your landys in from B&Q I might get the G4 mixed up why im there

Paul

[Andy the Landy]

Make sure the union is on the pipe before flaring it

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ill keep that one in mind  :lol:

just found out that the brake shoes I have here are all bleeden front ones of a 6cyl wich is of no great importance except the axel im using is a 2 1/4 as a temp mesure and iv got no rears aggggghhhhhh oh well at least I dont need teh shoes on just yet to make the chassis mobile job for another weekend I think but can do the pipes thats the easy part I think lol

[mark.yellow.series.3]

Make sure the union is on the pipe before flaring it

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ive learnt that the hard way. :oops: