Solicitors

[Rangie3.0LtrDan]

Is there a solicitor out there who could help!

If mods could please leave this here for the moment, i know its mainly about greenlaning.

I really would like to discuss the legalities of the NERC bill in alot of detail and how it affects the DDA as it is in direct violation of the DDa which therefore makes it illegal and unenforceable?

Any ideas, am only looking for answers that have the legal perspective and knowledge as i wouldnt mind putting time into this as we have lost most of the lanes in the lakes as of yesterday and dont think we should have done.

Cheers

Dan

[the loon]

Good luck with this one
just one question and may seem daft but whats DDA short for?

[chris9119]

Disabled Discrimination Act

[Edge]

Try to get hold of the LAW BOOKS, the ones that have every single law going back to the beginnings of laws..... theres a lot of reading but you'll be suprised at how many modern legislations are infact illegal.

[Eeyore]

If it helps at all, the DDA have been consulted by both government and members of the public and have already stated that they are in agreement with NERCA!  :shock:

The DDA don't see it as discriminatory, which beggers belief.

So maybe a better question to ask a legal eagle (because they're never cheap) may be how can the law be used to convince the DDA that they themselves are perpatrating discrimination and therefore failing in thier duties?

HTH

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

[Baby_Rhino]

Forgive me, but i think DDA is the Direct Discrimination Act? and disability is just one of the many ways you can directly discriminate...

[Rangie3.0LtrDan]

Baby rhino you are wrong, sorry, its the Disabilities Discrimination Act which was bought out either last year or the year before.

If the DDA are in fact in agreement with the NERC bill they are in breach of what they preach (oooooo it rhymes!)

The whole idea of getting together with a solicitor or someone is being able to word letters correctly, make sure the laws are in fact true and then make sure i pursue the matter in the correct way which doesnt adversly affect the campaign!

Does that sound daft?

[BrumLee]

Do you have a College of Law close to you?

I've found that law students like to look at cases like these as part of their studies and if successful can make a name for themself. I used the one in Birmingham for employment law and found them very helpful.

[MK-90]

Ill see if my flatmate can help...or fancies doing a bit of research, or can point me in the right direction :D

Shes currently a law student :D  I better get discounts when she qualifies lol

[Rangie3.0LtrDan]

Thanks Skinty :D it all helps in the end!  

Its just it seems as though the majority of us are taking this without a fight, i know a couple of people are doing stuff, but we need to start working together to get a legal precedent in one area, once thats done its easy!

[JeepRikk]

Hi there, just signed up after seeing this message :)

I've already mailed my MP and got a basic responce that he will be taking it further and getting back to, I'll keep chasing and make sure he does.

NERC dosn't affect me that much being in Essex as almost everything drivable is a BOAT, BUT seeing where this is heading and also how it affects other disabled people in other area's I thought I'd at least see what my MP had to say.

I'll also email the DDA and see what they have to say for themselves...didn't even realise they existed.

If there's anything I can help with please let me know.

             ............Rikk

[the loon]

Has anybody looked at the DDA and possible infringment of rights under the european laws e.g european bill of human rights (correct me if thats wrong) :?:
May be a long shot but you never know

[Eeyore]

Has anybody looked at the DDA and possible infringment of rights under the european laws e.g european bill of human rights (correct me if thats wrong) :?:
May be a long shot but you never know

To my knowledge, not as yet, although you can bet folk have talked about doing it, until they find out the costs. If you wanna go to European Court you'll need about seven figures of backing which is why no one has done it yet (unless they're loaded, in which case they probably paid for NERC in the first place)

One arguement that has been put forward (if you want to buy into it) is that the right of transit in a vehicle is granted only by permission of law, and as such the permission can be withdrawn. The up shot would be that they would claim your human rights haven't been infringed. So, you can see what we're up against.

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

[Dirty Gertie]

 we need to start working together to get a legal precedent in one area, once thats done its easy!

You'd better get yourself off to Uni and get yourself a degree then!
Easy?? PAH!!!  :roll:

[scania]

come on Janie
you can get a degree in between working and all your other tasks.

You could then have letters after your name.

 :lol:

morning by the way

[Dirty Gertie]

come on Janie
you can get a degree in between working and all your other tasks.

You could then have letters after your name.

 :lol:

morning by the way

Morning Judi; I've already got one, :D  I just get a little annoyed that those who can't be bothered have the idea that it's 'easy'

Janie (B.A.)

  :lol:

[K9Jim]

You'd be surprised how many modern day laws have been brought into existance WITHOUT the old ones being done away with  :shock: the contradict each other , work that one out :-s
oh check out my new name, thought i'd change it and it works \:D/

[Blu]

please excuse my ignorance,but what does NERC stand for?

I've 'Googled' it and still don't know.

[Wolfie]

It's the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Act which is, in part, the latest attempt to sort out the mess that Rights of Way are in in this country (in the legal sense), there's a guide to what it mean to motorised users of RoW here

Regards

Wolfie

[MK-90]

I had a good long chat with said law student :D  :D

She's got quite interested in it and has reminded me that seeing as i too am in the school of law i have access to a load of information on the internet. :roll:  durrr...how did i forget that (im not a law student tho ). Theres no chance im trawling through the thousand books in the library.

Anyhow....she did mention something. As long as you can prove you have an interest thats being discriminated against you will have a case etc etc.

Sorry im rather drunk so forgive me for now. Give me a few more days and ill have a lot more info hopefully. Ill start trawling the web tomoz :shock:


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Thanks Skinty :D it all helps in the end!  

Its just it seems as though the majority of us are taking this without a fight, i know a couple of people are doing stuff, but we need to start working together to get a legal precedent in one area, once thats done its easy!

[Rangie3.0LtrDan]

I had a good long chat with said law student :D  :D

She's got quite interested in it and has reminded me that seeing as i too am in the school of law i have access to a load of information on the internet. :roll:  durrr...how did i forget that (im not a law student tho ). Theres no chance im trawling through the thousand books in the library.

Anyhow....she did mention something. As long as you can prove you have an interest thats being discriminated against you will have a case etc etc.

Sorry im rather drunk so forgive me for now. Give me a few more days and ill have a lot more info hopefully. Ill start trawling the web tomoz :shock:


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Thanks Skinty :D it all helps in the end!  

Its just it seems as though the majority of us are taking this without a fight, i know a couple of people are doing stuff, but we need to start working together to get a legal precedent in one area, once thats done its easy!

See now thats quite an interesting bit in bold, being that really and truly people with physical disabilitys rely on motor vehicles to get them to parts of the countryside which are known as areas of natural beauty.  Now they wouldnt be able to walk, and i would love to see someone push a wheelchair up walna scar or garburn pass!