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Offline paul and sam

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« on: May 11, 2006, 23:06:32 »
can any one help us i am looking for any idears as to what type of welder to buy as am in need of doing some work on a roof rack as well as our disco .second where is the chepest place to buy a welder any idears any help would be much apricated . many thanks









and they say this is ment to be fun :(biglaugh):

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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2006, 23:11:46 »
got a gasless welder myself from argos two years ago
but a gas mig makes a better job
 try ebay there are some good tool supplyers there its where i got the pipe bender
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2006, 23:38:15 »
Get a MIG and above 150 amps. Will do for most things then.

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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2006, 00:07:08 »
if you spend the extra money you can get a mig that you can also arc weld with aswell, but i think for anyone that wont use a welder for anything more home jobs the arc welder wont benifit you.
ebay probibly will be the cheapest place, although machine mart or halfords will have what you need.

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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2006, 00:22:29 »
i use a 185 mig welder .it's a lot better than gasless,cheaper wire and the bottles come from my local fire extinquisher sales firm ,lasts ages
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2006, 00:26:18 »
Get a MIG, arc welding is bloody tricky if you havn't done it before and uses so much current it's hard to control on thin stuff.  Try B&Q, Halfrauds, Machine mart or a decent Sunday market (don't buy a nicked one though) for cheap newish ones.  Best from a shop then you can get spares and advice.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2006, 02:31:21 »
ARC is not worth considering if you plan on welding anthing below 3mm.

MIG probably will suit you best.

Avoid the cheaper SIP MIG welders, they have a notorious reputaion for a lousy wire feed mechanism, which makes good welding difficult.

At the cheaper end of the market I've heard good things about sealey and machine mart/clarke MIG welders.
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Re: welder mig or arc?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2006, 02:49:33 »
Quote from: "paul&sam"
and they say this is ment to be fun :(biglaugh):


If you want fun with a welder try building one of these

They are not much good in the mud, but on the road they are phenomenal.


Needless to say, i've come across the 'what welder' thread on locost forums many a time.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2006, 06:01:16 »
Don't,Don't,Don't....get an arc welder :shock: .
I did and it just blows holes in chassis (no-matter how low you adjust the voltage), not all the time, but theyre very difficult to control....... Get a Gas-Mig, it will last you for years, and is ideal for thin vehicle metals, and most other domestic jobs :D  :D .

Saying that you can buy my x2 week old, Brand-New Arc welder (used for 10mins only), comes with 2yr gaurantee, face shield, gloves, various size sticks, wire brush-tapper.
                            :)  :) £45:99p :)  :)

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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2006, 09:07:10 »
Id recommend Nu-Tool welders, assembled in Doncaster, well worth a look. Most Decent Mig sets will do tho.

Dont get gasless. They arc brighter than the sun, smoke like a chimney, and cost way too much to run. Get a gas type Mig, a full size bottle regulator from machine mart. and chat up your local landlord for a CO2 bottle.

All good!

Remember cleanliness and patience is the key to a good weld. grind till all the faces are shiny, and practise on scrap till your weld/abilities/welder settings, are all spot on.

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2006, 13:49:34 »
Quote from: "clbarclay"
Quote from: "paul&sam"
and they say this is ment to be fun :(biglaugh):


If you want fun with a welder try building one of these

They are not much good in the mud, but on the road they are phenomenal.


Needless to say, i've come across the 'what welder' thread on locost forums many a time.


Bought my welder originally for that very purpose! :)  Made the chassis up but never got any further by which time the chassis was then parted with and I dont know if it ever made it to the end product.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2006, 14:28:15 »
I bought a second hand workshop MIG many years ago, great big thing, not very portable but is fantastic and still going after 15 years plus, can weld tin or 10mm steel, I use Argoshield light gas and can even do stainless fairly well..
ARC is next to useless on vehicles, OK for cutting them up LOL
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2006, 17:15:37 »
Hi,

I just swapped out my old BOC Migmaster 130T for a nice new Butters AMT1800, there a real good light industrial unit fitted with a Binzle torch so use standard industrial parts, take a big 15kg reel of wire and will weld 6mm plate all day.

Got a good deal off Eblag and they were cheaper than my local BOC outlet who couldn't get close to them on price at all. Bets of all the guys based about 20mins away in Nottingham so got it delivered cheap.

Here's a link to it http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Butters-AMT-1800-single-phase-mig-welder-240v-13A_W0QQitemZ7613578369QQcategoryZ113743QQcmdZViewItem

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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2006, 16:59:55 »
ive got just what you need, its a new sealy 150amp mig welder, kept it as a spare but waste of time really as we weld heavy stuff, its sat there nearly a year now and dont think i will ever use it, was nearly £300 you can have it for £125 if you want it. call me anytime on 07977995686 if u r interested

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2006, 22:02:09 »
i use arc for everything.

chassis and bodywork.

must be just lucky i spose. :lol:
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2006, 23:02:55 »
Quote from: "suzota"
i use arc for everything.

chassis and bodywork.

must be just lucky i spose. :lol:



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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2006, 19:21:38 »
Quote from: TRUG
Don't,Don't,Don't....get an arc welder :shock: .
I did and it just blows holes in chassis (no-matter how low you adjust the voltage), =quote]


not if you know how to weld. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
all of mine was stick welded, and it makes a better job (if you can weld) :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 






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