Veggie Oil

[Doodlebug]

Anyone tried a mixture of veggie oil & DERV say 30% veggie in a 300 Tdi Disco? (declaring any due tax of course!)

I know of one or two thats run it in the 2.5 turbo Diesel & wondered how it fares in the Tdi

[winchman]

I know a man who uses it in a 200TDI no proble 60% diesel 40 % Tesco rape seed oil, says it runs better

[Doodlebug]

Cheers Mate!

[winchman]

http://www.biodieselfillingstations.co.uk/approvals.htm
Start looking here I found a very good forum but I think I only bookmarked it a work

[v8kenny]

My mates been running his diesel 90 on a 50/50 mix of veg oil and parrafin
Runs fine and starts from cold no problem - not sure on the legality of it mind

[Jas278]

50/50 300 tdi no problems..................just stinks...

[johnpirate]

I run a 50/50 mix in my 200 Tdi Disco and I declare the fuel duty.It normally runs fine but when the temperature drops you have to drop the mix quite dramatically.I was in Holmfirth in March coming home after a party .It had been down below 5 degrees in the night. The Disco had a pronounced stutter coming over the hill had to keep the revs high.

[landraver]

I run a 50/50 mix in my 200 Tdi Disco and I declare the fuel duty.It normally runs fine but when the temperature drops you have to drop the mix quite dramatically.I was in Holmfirth in March coming home after a party .It had been down below 5 degrees in the night. The Disco had a pronounced stutter coming over the hill had to keep the revs high.

Do you actually save much money when you take the duty into account (& where's the best place to get the veggie oil?)

cheers

Jeff

[Range Rover Blues]

Do you actually save much money when you take the duty into account (& where's the best place to get the veggie oil?)

cheers

Jeff

I'm not sure you do, veg oil is taxed as a DERV substitute and as most of fuel price is tax......
Biodeisel however is an alternative fuel and attracts a lower level of tax.

Daft really as Biodeisel is a direct replacement, veg oil is not.  Just wait till the cold weather folks.

[woody]

read the facts about SVO
http://www.dieselveg.com

read abou the tax issues
http://www.bio-power.co.uk/svoconference/

and some more
http://www.ravenfamily.org/andyg/vegoil.htm

and a few more links
http://www.oliomobile.org/eng/links.htm

read the facts and make an educated decision

as soon as a can afford it i would like to do a proper conversion to a Land Rover

[guardian]

you will have to experiment as every engine runs slightly different on veg oil. i have used it in all our vehicles for years now, some will run almost neat some need a splash of diesel to thin it down a tad, you do not need anything like 50/50 unless it is a cold winter. in my experiance the tdi is the engine that needs slightly more diesel than the others around 20% derv to 80% veg oil, something to do with the injectors.but you will have to try your to start with.
it is taxed exactly the same as ordinary derv there are lots of rules and regs to get bio derv tax and you will never get it, so you save nothing just cleaner for the environment. the cheapest iol is lidl but they ban u from buying it after about 3 trips, so morrisons or sainsburys all sell it for 50p per ltr if you buy the 3 ltr bottles. another tip do not ever use used oil you can buy it for 10 or 15 p per liter but by the time you have messed about with it to clean etc you may as well bought new, plus it never runs as well.
should you convery properly with a heater in your fuel tank you can then run oil neat no trouble, just have a tank to start up and turn off on so to clean injectors with diesel.
you will hear many different things contradicting everything so its difficult if you have never used it, id did my brain in years ago, but when someone gives you advise ask them first if they have ever used it, because still people tell me you cannot use veg oil its a load of rubbish!

[fram]

What is the price of bio-diesel compared to the ordinary stuff?
Our nearest supplier is about 15 miles away, and although it would be really nice to help the environment a bit, is it worth the drive to fill up every week or two?

[Matt_H]

I run a 50/50 mix in my 200 Tdi Disco and I declare the fuel duty.It normally runs fine but when the temperature drops you have to drop the mix quite dramatically.I was in Holmfirth in March coming home after a party .It had been down below 5 degrees in the night. The Disco had a pronounced stutter coming over the hill had to keep the revs high.

How do you pay the tax - this was the bit that made my head go funny and put me off the idea.

M

[johnpirate]

Every end of month I get a form off Customs and Excise to fill in the amount I have used .You send a cheque for the duty to be paid by the 15th of the month coming.You ring up and ask to register as a bio fuel producer and user .You get a trader number so if stopped you give the number and you are in the clear.I called into a local garage yesterday talking to him. He runs a 300tdi he asked how mine was on veg as his has stopped on him a couple of times and it takes some getting going. But he thought mine bieng a 200tdi would handle it better as they use a different pump. Plus on a personal note I think the 200 is a tougher engine ..I,ve got the Landrovers for Africa handbook and even Landrover says you can run upto a 300tdi on a mixof 100 parts kerosene to 1 part engine oil.Tough as old boots arnt they .

[ian_s]

so the government just beleive what you tell them about how much you use?
so you could tell them you use 5 gallon a month, and really use 50?
wow, trusting arent they.

[defuzz]

hello guys, this is all very exciting Im ready to start using veg oil in my 200tdi.


My only concern is the fuel pump, it seems this is the weakest link in the veg oil running and is most likely to fail.

Im gonna go for it anyway but Id like to get a replacement fuel pump as back up along with a few spare fuel filters.

Can anyone tell me what part I need (the disco appears to have anumber of fuel pump type things and I want the bit that is going to fail on me!!!)

[defuzz]

blimey, just done some looking round on the net, the "fuel injection pump", Rimmer Bros want £2000+ for one
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/cgi-bin/rimmer?findpart&PartID=ERR459&Page=land-rover/discovery/fuel

whilst the "fuel pump" is only £53


anyone know which bit is the one likely to die??
(sods law its the pricey one)