Child car seat legislation!!

[Dpulse303]

OMG when will it end ? i just saw on the news that as of sept kids upto about the age of thirteen have to be in a child seat.subject to a £30 on the spot for failiure to comply.
so lets look ,they want more eco friendly cars ...and not so many biguns on the road,increased road tax (for gridlocked motorways and constant maintenance on trunk roads) then they go and restrict the amount of people you can carry,
 i dont know how many disco owners thought "great seven seats plenty of room for the kids".
I did, one of the important factors, you know its that or a sharan kind of situation .
Now i am just getting very frustrated..
so what next?
l have privacy glass so i may get away with it, but those people with 5, 6 and up kids and no privacy glass (probably got thermal cameras anyway) may suffer.
post your thoughts ,move the post if its in the wrong place , whatever
cheers !
Dave.
:?  8)  :lol:

[smo]

I agree its a crap bit of legislation.

You cant fit 3 child seats/boosters across the back seat of any car, even my "old" passat with it cavernous back seat couldnt fit em comfortably. Its also a problem as a booster in the side facig seat of the back of my 90 would be er, lethal...they arent idea as it is, but add one of them and you are asking for trouble!

It'll be interesting to see what, say, childminders do, how are they going to manage if they cant carry as many kids??

[dave_2A_2.25Turbo]

THIRTEEN?

You serious?

The average Thirteen year-old is bigger than my wife!!

[ian_s]

so how many different car seats is that gonna mean you need to buy for 1 child?
thats ludicrous

[snezza69]

THIRTEEN?

You serious?

The average Thirteen year-old is bigger than my wife!!

I was under the impression that there were height parameters!

[rollazuki]

I can get 3 seats across my Multipla no probs :lol:

[strapping young lad]

do you really think your thirteen yr old child is going to sit in a car seat??

I DONT THINK SO!

i think the fuzz should concentrate more on those tax disc dodgers and people who dont wear seat belts i see every darned day around chorley  

oh and the classic one with the kid standing on the footwell in the back between the two front seats...  :roll:

[NiceBlueWellies]

I feel I could do with a car seat some days, just to be that little bit higher!!!!!!!! :lol:

When Conner was 6/7 he refused to sit in a car seat.  Can't see him sitting in one ever again, and he is only 9!

Must be some car seat manufacturer who is an MP trying to make a bit more profit, I think.  

[landybabe]

I heard about this a couple of weeks ago and thought it was
more to do with the height, not the age of the child, although age
of 11 was mentioned?? and height of 140cm as far as i can remember.

Still, very confusing  :?  :?

Can just see the old bill out and about
with their measuring sticks to police this one :roll:  

[strapping young lad]

ok another angle on it

you have a normal 4 door car

and only certain types of car seat fits (like mine)

and you cant get ones which are for older kids

whaddya do?

buy a new car

oh yes the prius as its soo ecologically friendly

boll...... if you dig on google bout the prius performance.. it aint what they say it is! ;)

[discomummy]

Hi,

the height restriction is 130 cm,  however the twin 9 year old monsters are 132cm - so i can relax otherwise i would have to buy the girls high heeled shoes!

regards

ela

[dave_2A_2.25Turbo]

THIRTEEN?

You serious?

The average Thirteen year-old is bigger than my wife!!

I was under the impression that there were height parameters!

As far as I'm aware, ones wife can be any height.............

[strapping young lad]

as long as she is high enough to reach the sink..!



i'll get me coat ;)

[ben_haynes]

I can get 3 seats across my Multipla no probs :lol:

WHY WHY WHY  
I work for fiat they are crap

[mark.yellow.series.3]

OMG when will it end ? i just saw on the news that as of sept kids upto about the age of thirteen have to be in a child seat.subject to a £30 on the spot for failiure to comply.
so lets look ,they want more eco friendly cars ...and not so many biguns on the road,increased road tax (for gridlocked motorways and constant maintenance on trunk roads) then they go and restrict the amount of people you can carry,
 i dont know how many disco owners thought "great seven seats plenty of room for the kids".
I did, one of the important factors, you know its that or a sharan kind of situation .
Now i am just getting very frustrated..
so what next?
l have privacy glass so i may get away with it, but those people with 5, 6 and up kids and no privacy glass (probably got thermal cameras anyway) may suffer.
post your thoughts ,move the post if its in the wrong place , whatever
cheers !
Dave.
:?  8)  :lol:

IAM A 4X4 OWNER, COME ON KICK ME SOME MORE  

[dew1911]

I know a car you can get 3 child seats across - New Ford S-Max.

I agree though, one of those "Why Bother" rules.

[Plum]

Your all missin the point . . . ..

What the hell happens when you ring and ask your "friend,  sister,  mother,  etc etc   to pick up your youngun from nurcery or school in an emergancy cos you cant get home for a couple of hours.  All because your stuck in a bl---y grid lock due to all the extra cars needed on the roads to pick the kids up that are normally picked up on the school runs,(nobodies got a child seat unless they all buy one just in case)  worked out by all the mums together like a little army,  and altered at a drop of a hat to accomadate these little emergancies  etc etc etc etc. . . .

If you have 1 child then your not going to buy another two car seats just in case your friend wants her 2 picking up every now an then,  or want to fit all the ancor points . . . . . .

an it dont even effect me ! ! ! but its all GOING MAD ! ! !

there thats me done . . . . cheers . . . .oh an sorry about the spelling :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[woody]

slightly different slant here

ITV2 last night i caught the last 2mins of one of those police reality programs
they stopped a fiesta lifted the boot and 4 kids got out opened the doors and eventually including the driver
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12 people got out
i think the law is amed at these people and the babies on knee brigade
but all you need is a jobs worth and you'v had it

[fram]

As far As I know it is a height restriction rather than an age restriction. The age is just a guide line.

To be honest it is about time something was done. I'm sick to death of seeing toddlers unrestrained in the back of cars or sitting in the front seat with a seat belt that doesn't fit.

I have only ever had 2 car seats for my lad, the first was one of those reclining type rocker car seats from newborn, then we bought him a seat which will fit him untill he is old enough to sit safely in a car with just a normal seat belt. This seat starts of as a normal seat with straps, next stage is seat with car seat belt, last stage, back of the seat comes off so you just have a booster seat.

Older children WON'T have to sit in a full child seat, but WILL have to have a booster seat. The reasen for this is seatbelts are only designed for passengers over a certain height.

If I had to go out and buy a new car seat for my little one every year I would do so as long as he was safe in the car.

What price do you put on your childs life?

[murph]

I have to agree with fram, all the points are there, it is to do with the height of the child, normal seat belts can be fatal to children who are not tall enough, use a booster seat.

As lots have mentioned already it is aimed at those totally irresponsible people who cart their kids around on there knee's or just standing in the back of the car.

I have seen kids hanging upside down in RTA's correctly strapped into their car seats, they save lives.

You read about those who don't use them or where seat belts, its not nice cutting children out of cars.

The new rules have a purpose, trying to save lives.
I'll shut up now.

[blackbob]

think it in a child seat if avalable so if you got it you got to use it
been searching the web and it said height 140cm must use a child seat where avalible

[Karen696]

normal seat belts can be fatal to children who are not tall enough, use a booster seat.

So are they gonna legislate and make my 'vertically challenged' father in law sit in a kiddie seat?

There are so many idiots who don't belt their children in now - the police can't or won't enforce the current legislation - why does anyone think another law will make them buy and  use a booster seat as well?

On the subject of safety, drivers air bags can be fatal to shorter drivers who have to sit nearer the wheel (in my experience Fords are particularly bad in this respect) but they don't give you an option to disarm them.

[beast5680]

is the muppets like i saw today that need educating, letting their kids stand between the seats and the mother sitting in the back bouncing the baby on her lap :shock:  this while we are crawling in traffic past a very bad accident on the M25 where a disco had gone over the central barrier

[mark.yellow.series.3]

kids running about in the back of cars with no belt on really gets my goat :x

[Hissy]

http://www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/campaigns/childcarseats/childcarseats.htm


It's those people who already ignore the seat belt laws in place now,
who will continue to
do so, regardless of changes to it  :roll:  :roll:

[Manicminer]

Copied from the above site.^^^^^
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Cars
The law requires children travelling in cars to use an appropriate child restraint or adult seat belt, if they are available. Children cannot be carried in the front seat unless they are either in a child restraint or are using the seat belt. It is the driver's responsibility to ensure that children under the age of 14 years are either using an appropriate child restraint or an adult seat belt if available.

Cars - Children under 3 years old
If carried in the front seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be used (the adult seat belt is not sufficient). Children under 3 years old may not travel in the front unless they are in a child restraint.

If carried in the rear seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be used, IF AVAILABLE.

If an appropriate restraint is fitted in the front of the car, but not the rear, children under 3 years old MUST sit in the front and use that restraint. Remember, you could move the restraint from the front to the rear if you wish. Rearward-facing seats are designed to be used in the rear as well as the front. You should always put a rearward-facing baby seat in the rear if is a front passenger airbag fitted.

Cars - Children Aged 3 to 11 years and under 1.5 metres tall
If carried in the front seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be worn IF AVAILABLE.
If not, an adult seat belt MUST be worn.

If carried in the rear seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be worn IF AVAILABLE.
If not, an adult seat belt MUST be worn IF AVAILABLE.

If an appropriate restraint or seat belt is fitted in the front of the car, but not in the rear, children between 3 to 11 years old and under 1.5 metres tall MUST use that restraint or seat belt. (Remember, you could move the restraint from the front to the rear if you wish).

Cars - Children Aged 12 or 13 years or younger children 1.5 metres or more in height
If carried in the front or rear seat, an adult seat belt MUST be worn IF AVAILABLE.
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