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Offline Dave@23

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« on: June 30, 2006, 21:22:24 »
Hi I have a 95 discovery tdi auto. I have been running it on 100% biodiesel
it seems to run very vell I have covered about 2000 miles. changed oil and filters inc fuel. .Has any body got any views or experience with this fuel. :D

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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2006, 21:56:06 »
I used to run my old 50th Anniversary on Bio whenever I got near the only supplier I knew of

However, I didn't keep it long enough after finding the supplier to do a full running report.
But, it ran fine on it for me
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2006, 03:18:51 »
It's supposed to be better, like the catalytically cracked super diesel that I think BP sells (it costs more) it's cleaner burning, has better emissions and so leaves less cr4p in your engine.  Provided it lubricates the fuel pump (which it does) and burns then you can pretty much stick anything in a diesel but Bio is meant to be good.

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2006, 12:11:31 »
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 Provided it lubricates the fuel pump (which it does) and burns then you can pretty much stick anything in a diesel but Bio is meant to be good.

So long as it's not into a Td5 :wink:

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Pub trivia, Otto Diesel's first 4 stroke engine ran on coal dust.

Then he jumped off a ship in th mid-Atlantic, or was he pushed? (no-one ever found out)
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2006, 21:16:25 »
I was told his first engine ran on peanut oil?
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2006, 21:31:22 »
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I was told his first engine ran on peanut oil?


It did run on that fluid as well
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2006, 20:46:51 »
I understand you can run most diesels on SVO or WVO (after filtering), and that older Land Rover Diesels are particularly good using these as fuels.

Anybody using it?

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2006, 20:54:02 »
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I understand you can run most diesels on SVO or WVO (after filtering), and that older Land Rover Diesels are particularly good using these as fuels.

Anybody using it?

maybe  :roll:
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2006, 22:36:43 »
I started using WVO in my Isuzu lump (2l 4x4 Midi van) about 2 yrs ago and its fine, usually mixed with mineral but if Im on a run itll be neat.
I have now just started to run my 110 200TDI on it with slightly different results :?   Neat and its not a happy chap but mix it with a bit onf mineral and its fine, I have just fitted a heat exchanger and heated filter and will try it again. I will probably end up with 2 tanks but from what I have read I shouldn't have too.

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2006, 22:49:19 »
if the ambient temp is high (20deg upwards) mine will start & run on neat ok if a bit lumpy to start with & once warmed up goes fine (200tdi)
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2006, 23:17:29 »
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if the ambient temp is high (20deg upwards) mine will start & run on neat ok if a bit lumpy to start with & once warmed up goes fine (200tdi)


Is that new or waste oil?
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2006, 23:25:45 »
new,
20L for £11
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2006, 23:34:30 »
To be legal which I know we all are  8)  thats 80 odd a litre, waste is a bit more work but less than 30 a litre. New does work better as no matter how long it settles, waste is always mucky, I certainly wouldnt use it for cookin.
I would like to have a go at proper bio but thats even more time which is a precious commodity this day n age..
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2006, 11:16:46 »
Here is a site that should keep you interested if SVO etc is your thing.


http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html#intro


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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2006, 21:10:38 »
I,m running a 50/50 mix Veg oil /Diesel runs fine ( 200Tdi ) .I ve registered with C/E and get my form every month.If you want info ring C/E and ask for form EX103, easy enough to do.
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2006, 21:12:43 »
This site is pretty useful too :

http://www.ravenfamily.org/andyg/vegoil.htm
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2006, 08:47:48 »
Hmmm . . . . getting me thinking now.

Just done the Maths and it's shownig a saving of around £25 per tank . . . . but then there's the hasle with tax and forms etc.


Now where can I get bulk supplies of rapeseed oil on the cheap  :wink:
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2006, 13:09:22 »
I found a site the other day that did aconversion kit, you filled the fuel tank with used filtered oil or new veg oil, and there was a 20l tank in the boot with Derv in that, was used for the first few minutes till the engine warmed up, and the last coulpe of minutes before switch off, that way no probs with blocked injectors or filters as the derv flush's the system, I seem to think it was about £500 so would pay for itself in 20 refills if you save £25 each refueling, and you can stick your ? upto anti 4x4 prats in there nissan micra's.
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2006, 13:13:15 »
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I found a site the other day that did aconversion kit, you filled the fuel tank with used filtered oil or new veg oil, and there was a 20l tank in the boot with Derv in that, was used for the first few minutes till the engine warmed up, and the last coulpe of minutes before switch off, that way no probs with blocked injectors or filters as the derv flush's the system, I seem to think it was about £500 so would pay for itself in 20 refills if you save £25 each refueling, and you can stick your ? upto anti 4x4 prats in there nissan micra's.


Any chance of a link to that site ?,



Thanks John.
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2006, 13:37:58 »
http://www.dieselveg.com/special_offers.htm

I hadn't put in Favourites took awhile to find :oops:
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2006, 00:14:50 »
a cirtain Ms "Daryll Hanna" runs her range rover on bio permenantly . . . . . .
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2006, 09:06:15 »
Round my way there are three garages that sell bio from the pump

79.9p a litre,

The 200TDi runs on it all the time, it actualy runs better !!!

but.... be carefull, many modern common rail diesel engines that have injectors running at very high pressure can not use it as the bio does not provide enough lubrication for the injectors.

My old company car was a VW Passat and it ran fine on it, manufacture approved etc etc but my Toyota did not like it and needed £3k of repairs after just 3 tanks of it !! lucky for me I had asked the dealer and they told me they thought it would be OK, turned out it was not.

BMW engines can run on BIO but in there technical sheets they say you should specify when ordering that you want a bio compatable vehicle something about different seals or something. I found this out as I'm currently choosing my next company car.
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2006, 13:11:47 »
Quote from: "Tyke"
Hmmm . . . . getting me thinking now.

Just done the Maths and it's shownig a saving of around £25 per tank . . . . but then there's the hasle with tax and forms etc.


Now where can I get bulk supplies of rapeseed oil on the cheap  :wink:



i wonder if hutchinsons animal feed supplies at horbury might be able to help on finding rapeseed? worth a try next time your down that way maybe
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2006, 19:38:15 »
right lets have a straight answer will a 200tdi run on 60/40 diesel/svo without trashing any major parts

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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2006, 20:43:53 »
What are the forms like is there much to fill etc , i have run mine on a 60 / 40 split and it runs ok  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2006, 22:25:46 »
Quote from: "blade"
right lets have a straight answer will a 200tdi run on 60/40 diesel/svo without trashing any major parts

yes no problem,if the ambient temp is high can run right up to 100% without problems
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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2006, 08:08:54 »
All this talk of using veg oil in your motors, has anyone tried cooking a meal using diesel instead of veg oil yet ? :D
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2006, 18:13:37 »
hi there could any one tell me what is a safe mix with cooking oil and  diesel whats the best stuff to use and where can i get it from cheers shaun
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