Braking

[Ollie]

I'm woefully aware of the difference between my car and Laila's braking ability. The 110 is heavy and takes a wee while to pull-up sharpish :(bigshock):
I'm using Laila more and more with my two children in her, Niamh and Kailen, (2yrs & 10mths), and wondered if anyone has been able to upgrade the brakes on a Defender 110 with noticable success :?:

Cheers
Ollie

[muddyweb]

Do you have vented discs ?
What tyres are you running ?

[Ollie]

Yep, 1995 standard 110, with vented front discs.
I'm running standard LR issue boots - Grabbers.

I'm not complaining at the stopping power, all things considered, I'm looking to greatly improve it if at all possible :)

Cheers
Ollie

[Bush Tucker Man]

If everything's 'up to scratch', the braking capabilities ought to be fairly good anyway (mine is), due to the maximum laden weight  & the towing capacity.

[smo]

I wouldnt expect any miricles to be honest, i recently took my 90 back to LR because of poor braking performance and they tested it, checked it all and said its fine.

Its clearly not, i can't even lock up with BFT-MT's on, so there is somthing a miss but i cant find it and they recon its ok.

[Jimbo]

What pads are you using ?

EBC do some uprated ones, their 'Green stuff' pads might be a little harsh for general use, but I believe they also do 'Black stuff' pads which are still supposedly a vast improvement over OEM pads.

Word of warning - a guy at work kept trashing the standard pads on his 1.8T Audi (he drives like a loon), so he fitted EBC Greens..........now he keeps eating the discs !

Jim

[smo]

Greens are standard replacements, better on most vehicles but there are exceptions.

Blacks and Yellows are competition and race pads, definatly not for landys, in fact i doubt they make them for landys!

[hobbit]

Do these have a load sensor valve on them at all?

[muddyweb]

Are you getting low brake efficiency, or are you suffering from 'fade' (the brakes get worse as you use them)

If it is poor efficiency, then a new set of standard pads might be worth trying.  If the pads that are on there haven't been bedded in properly then they might not be working as well as they should.

There are uprated pads around, and these will also likely improve things.

As a help in reducing fade, there are a few cross-drilled and / or vented discs around which might improve things.

Beware though !!  If you are spending a lot of money on braking components, be careful where you drive.  It's perfectly possible to destroy a set of pads / discs in a day on a gritty off-road site.

FWIW, my 90 runs on standard pads and discs and will stop in quite a hurry, even when towing BIG loads.

[Ollie]

No, no braking fade, and as I have previously noted, the brakes are good all things considered.
I'm after upgrading them to make them even better than they are.
If you have children and carry them around in your 110/90 etc, then you'll understand my reasoning :?

Has anyone fitted the Terrafirma discs and pads from FrogsIsland?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&item=280004942301&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Cheers
Ollie

[dew1911]

Our 110 stops damn well for the size of it (IMO) and it's only got drums on the back, they were rebuilt recently though and so do lock at the first sign of trouble.

If the pads are clean and the stopping isn't brilliant then is there enough fluid in the pipes? could be lack of pressure.

[Range Rover Blues]

I'm using Green stuff both ends, it's £53 a car from padocks so rude not to.  It does make a difference and the drive is quite good, just bin th stupid anti squeele stuff they are staring to fit, it's pants.  I find I have a very wooly pedal after fitting a set though, might be time for some new hydraulic components, not sure which though.

As an aside, you can fit the callipers form a V8 CSW to the Range Rover vented disk as these are slightly bigger than the callipers use EVERYWHERE else, Bearmach do the conversion as a kit.  Otherwise the 130 uses bigger disks and callipers I'm told.  I like to stop too, especially as the Rangie is invisible.