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« on: July 30, 2006, 07:47:08 »
Just put this on here so more people can see it. some nice people (probile pikeys as they were their but have now gone). has left some rubbish behind on a nice little lane just down from measham heading towards tywcross. anybody on here know who the glass rep is for this area. As i bevile most of the rubbish is now gone but some little toe rag as left a burnt out car on its side i the middle of the lane now as well. So if we cant moan at the council think a lane cleaning day my be in order wiht the asstance of loacl concil and press.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2006, 07:47:44 »
one more
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2006, 08:05:33 »
Or you could contact your local Ramblers Group, they could arrange to have a lane clearence day  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

On a serious note, it makes me so mad when you see this happen  :x  :x

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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2006, 08:12:33 »
yea as the firts pic showa the entrance to a foot path. wonder if i was to put it up on there web site and say anyone fancy a day out  :wink:
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2006, 08:37:35 »
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yea as the firts pic showa the entrance to a foot path. wonder if i was to put it up on there web site and say anyone fancy a day out  :wink:


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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2006, 09:22:47 »
Call the cops then move the car, or move the car and call the cops.

I have done the self same thing too many times with burnt out motors and on at least 3 occasions been asked to tow burnt out motor to the end of the lane so the police can recover it easier.

As for the rubbish contact the council tell them about the dumped rubbish and then continue on to say that it’s blocking a right of way which is used regular blah blah blah, it should then highlight the lane and it’s problems and also the fact that it is being used as a right of way by motors and walkers.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2006, 00:01:26 »
We had an ice cream out that fridge the other week  :wink: When we drove that lane the guy that collects the fishing money just stood there looking at the mess  :roll:
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2006, 07:03:56 »
Hi Graeme,

Carn't belive it's still like it... I reported that weeks ago... :roll:

You could give Andrew Perry RoW for the area a ring and report it again if you wish. :wink:

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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2006, 08:23:23 »
when you think about it. it's the councels fault anyway.

If they didn't make it so hard to dump rubbish at the local tip you wouldn't get fly tipping, which costs them more to clean up.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2006, 08:45:06 »
Know that Lane well, as Paul said been there @ least 6 wks.......more further up the lane.........

 

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2006, 12:43:00 »
At least they didn't dump it the tarmac highway. I nearly ploughed into a 5 foot high mound of builders waste tipped into the middle of the road (single track 'C road' near Rugby. The pikey's had rather nicely left it on a dog leg corner too.....
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2006, 11:42:01 »
I recognise those photos Graeme  :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2006, 13:19:42 »
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when you think about it. it's the councels fault anyway.

If they didn't make it so hard to dump rubbish at the local tip you wouldn't get fly tipping, which costs them more to clean up.



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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2006, 13:26:20 »
we found this whilst we were laneing yesterday and loads of rubish
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2006, 13:32:35 »
similar to the above we went laning in cambs once and found a little metro with no wheels dumped in the middle of the lane. fortunately all but one of us got around it.  :wink:   twas funny
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2006, 14:52:48 »
I dont think its right to Generalise and say: if the councils made it easier to tip: Here in Wiltshire the councils have provided plenty of sites - and thankfully we dont suffer this kind of thing (too much) unless the Pikeys
have paid us a visit :roll:  :roll: We have a T A chopper that patrols Salisbury plain looking for this sort of thing+ people being stupid and leaving the Byways etc,
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2006, 15:06:27 »
Twice I've been in the vicinity of someone about to fly-tip. (why back a transit 20yards down a muddy lane) but each time they scarpered as soon as they clocked the Disco parked nearby.

What really amazes me is the lengths some people will go to to dump stuff. sometimes I come across a pile of mostly domestic rubbish over mile down a quirt narrow road that is almost a dead end. (unless you like opening and closing crossing gates)
Yet the council dump (sorry Recycling center) is only 2 miles away and unlike some places the chaps there are quite helpful.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2006, 15:21:01 »
Filthy, disgusting pigs!!
As for blaming the councils for this; WHY???
Domestic refuse is FREE to deposit; householders already pay for that facility in their council tax; if you have a 'commercial' vehicle, the permit to deposit domestic refuse is still free
The problem lies with 'contractors' (all that debris looks like plaster bags etc to me) - these people are in business to make money; they charge their customers a rate for the job, which includes the disposal of all rubbish; they simply think they can get away without paying commercial waste disposal rates and dump it in the countryside instead; once more leaving the onus for cleaning it up on the householders of the area; whether it be the likes of us, taking on the job of keeping the lanes clear, or council workmen whose wages we pay for in our council tax; scabbing gits!!! :evil:
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2006, 16:56:30 »
But  some local councils do make it virtually impossibl;e to use the tip, whether or not you've paid your Council Tax.

I can't get the Disco in ours - height barrier at 6' in one and 5'8" at another. And no they will NOT move them out of the way.

Neither allow vans so the Astra is out.

No walking-in of stuff.

So I'm left with the option of the MX5 - don't think so!

Grantham is totally different- quite a culture shock.

6' 6" height - trailers allowed ("six wheeler/ 5 ton a time of garden waste if you want mate"

They help you unload :shock: (and not just to check what you're dumping!) and are generally really helpful - on the second to last run I did last week, the guy on 'Green Waste'  asked if I'd got much more - then went and found me 3 bulk bags, saying it would be easier foor me to load, and easier for him/me to lift out and tip into the compactor.

I was quite stunned, TBH - the difference between the two areas is amazing.  And then Kent wonders why they have so much fly-tipping.....
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2006, 20:42:46 »
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Domestic refuse is FREE to deposit;

That is very true, but not that simple.
For example, I have a number of trailers, and about 6 months ago spent the weekend clearing out some of the rubbish fom my back garden.
The best trailer for the job was my box trailer so I loaded it with a mixture of garden rubbish, bits of wood, building rubble, bags of old clothes, bits of car (metal and plastic) etc until it was full.
By this time it was Sunday evening and I work 08:30 to 17:00 Mon-Fri and every other Saturday so the following Sunday I glued the full trailer on the back of the motor and off I poped to the nearest council rubbish tip.
Can't come in here mate you live in the wrong postcode, so off I trundle to the next nearest tip, hay presto you can't come in here mate as you live in Derbyshire and this is a Staffordshire tip.
So where do I go then I asked, don't know mate (by this time I was no mate of his but better not upset him) you will have to ring the council and ask.
Monday dinner I ring the council, 20 minutes (your call is important to us thankyou for holding)(and giving Orange lots of pennies)but now I know which tip to go to 13 miles away not 5 or 7 like the two I tried before.
Saturday morning off I went, trailer in tow 13 miles only to be told by Hitlers grandson you can't come in here with that HORSE BOX ( I am 5ft 9in and I can't stand up in the dam thing so if I managed to shoehorn my sisters 16.3 pony in it the RSPCA would shoot me and rightly so but hay ho off I go back home to move the ribbish from my box trailer to my camping trailer (well half of it as the camping trailer is not as big as the box trailer (sorry horrse box)) and off I go.
Another 13 miles and join the que at the tip 1/2 hour queing and there's Adolf junior "what you got in there mate" mixed stuff I said "sorry mate you can only stop and off load at one skip (therefore one type of rubbish) and then move on.
At this point I lost it and drove into the middle of the tip site and proceeded to off load the trailer bit by bit into the relevent skips while Adolf goose stepped up and down shouting about calling the police and haveing me charged with obstrution while the rest of the people drive around me and dumped there one bag of grass cutting out of there Ford Mondeo boot.
When I had finished I carmly got back into my car and drove away to the shouts of "I HAVE GOT YOUR NUMBER AND YOU WILL NOT COME IN HERE AGAIN"
Not been there since, the second load I went to the nearest one and told them the wrong post code.
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2006, 23:22:22 »
its a problem we have around here to varying degrees.
Theres nothing as bad as cars being dumped and burnt out all the time I have only eve know 1 instance of a burnt out car local to me but the council took almost a year to shift it as it was on open land.
The field it was in was part of a local farm however theres no gates etc as they get used as an open area by the locals for dog walking etc and theres no right of way across them but they get used to access local open woodlands.
The reason the car wasnt shifted was because the council wouldnt except responcability as the car wasnt on there land or public highway so there was a bit of a wrangle as to who should foot the bill however when the local community police stepped in and meadiated a resolution all was sorted.
There are however plenty of small country lanes around me and there are regularly piles of junk left in gateways of besides the road.
Credit where credit is due again though gateshead council will normaly get stuff shifted with in a week unless they are investigating tippers.

My farther in law works for newcastle city council in Fenham (kind of a down market beruit style part of the city)He's part of the local community task force and part of his job is investigating and reporting fly tipping.
They requantly have to shift fly tipping piles in excess of a ton and its normaly not just household waste but builders rubbish etc.
His worst expeariance was a catering fridge dumped behind a kebab shop that had been closed by enviromental heath. The premises where rented so when they where closed the tennents basicly did a runner(they where wanted by police in connection with other matters) but they left this old fridge out in the back lane. After a week or so of hot weather locals complained about the smell in the alley so out goes the farther in law to see what the score is and finds this fridge Opens the door and its full of putrid kebab meat (elephants leg's on scewers) There where 3 in there and one fell out and splattered on the road covering him in putrid rotten meat
he had to return to his depot and they hosed him down in the yard it was that bad
The upshot was though the police caught up with the former tennents and they had to pay over £4k in fines £1k of that was for the dumping of the fridge as it costs a business £500 to have the council dispose of old industrial fridges and frezzers

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2006, 03:00:27 »
Not much I can add that hasn't already been said - erm well actually being as it's me there probably is such as:

Fly tipping is much harder than cow tipping you have to sneak up on the fly with a pencil and knock it over when it's sleeping.

Ah wrong fly tipping right?  :shock:

But on a serious note - cruelty to flies is unacceptable - but not as bad as the ********** pick an expletive - that dump their rubbish in the countryside - takes less effort to throw it in the council depots.
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