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« on: August 31, 2006, 21:52:18 »
OK I have seen from a few posts that there are a few fans of Scorpion racing parts.  Please don't think I am critisising them!  I have a few parts of theirs on my project namely Double carden prop and front springs.


I saw in a recent LR mag that a 101 had a custom prop in from Scorpion.  Has anyone else had one?

I am looking at getting a rear prop for a 110 to connect a Discovery R380 (longer bell housing) to a Disco 1 rear axle.

I also want to change the axle flange from the Disco dohnut type to a standard defender type, Is this as straightforward as it seems?

My project is now running with the Scorpion front prop (although not road legal yet), in Diff lock.  I need the rear prop sorting soon!

Any help would be great thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2006, 21:57:08 »
errr joking apart, but i wouldnt buy a propshaft from them ! let alone a custom 1  :shock:
go  to s specialist propshaft place and youll get it aload cheaper, cos thats all they are doing and then making a nice healthy mark up onit
as for the flandge, afink the splines are different, but not sure, try ashcroft transmissions or crown diffs for the answer
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2006, 22:00:25 »
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"

go  to a specialist propshaft place and youll get it aload cheaper


Can you recommend one?
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2006, 22:00:52 »
Good advice there :D  :D

I wouldnt use scrapiron either.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2006, 22:02:19 »
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Good advice there :D  :D

I wouldnt use scrapiron either.


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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2006, 22:04:24 »
wouldnt no any in germany
errr afink glyn lewis do their own BUT not sure ask around in the modified section sure someone can help further
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2006, 22:06:17 »
the prop shaft clinic in bradford made front and rear props for the cat with wide angle yolks if you over 2ins lift. had to have shafts made as have shifted the engine back 12ins.... :D
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2006, 22:07:42 »
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the prop shaft clinic in bradford made front and rear props for the cat with wide angle yolks if you over 2ins lift. had to have shafts made as have shifted the engine back 12ins.... :D


forgot about them  :roll:
how much they cost then ?
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2006, 22:08:05 »
Gwyn Lewis (www.gwynlewis4x4.co.uk) dose the GKN ones to any length and with wide yokes as standard. The Propshaft clinic is another.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2006, 22:09:07 »
You beat me to it Paul! :lol:
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2006, 22:11:28 »
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
Quote from: "tomcat"
the prop shaft clinic in bradford made front and rear props for the cat with wide angle yolks if you over 2ins lift. had to have shafts made as have shifted the engine back 12ins.... :D


forgot about them  :roll:
how much they cost then ?



the front shaft was £140+vat   the rear shaft was £120+vat two years ago :oops:
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2006, 22:16:03 »
thats exactly my point, scorpion would have made 40-60 quid on them !
so if you go direct to custom prop makers you save a bomb !!
like springs......go direct....cut out the middle man  :lol:
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2006, 22:30:34 »
Springs arent easy to go direct unless you can visit and get your current springs measured. The guys in sheffield are top class but dont have anything on the shelf so you could end up with anything...too soft , too hard who knows!
Propshafts are funny things . I would recommend propshaft technology in rotherham any day. Andy is top class...30 degree...dont think so mine are 36 degree....bit better. Mine look like they came off a tank!
I would go local . Google in your town there will be a specialist propshaft manufacturer. Take it along if you can and get him to measure it. Then if its not quite right he can change it...plus they weigh a blummin tonne, that would be expensive to post!
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2006, 08:21:44 »
My double Carden Scorpion prop cost £300 (SHOW PRICE), I hope I won't need to spend that amaount again!

Thanks all, much help!
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2006, 22:16:01 »
I know of a Scorpion Propshaft which last all of 500yrds off road before disintergrating  :roll:
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2006, 23:55:23 »
wow thats scary........but not scorpions fault.... the manufactures fault !!
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2006, 10:00:19 »
OK thats not particularly comforting!
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2006, 10:08:34 »
Not every one has had problems with Scorpion gear.
There has been a few malfunctions which have been rectified by Scorpion.
I know a few people that use their stuff and have done for years without any problems.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2006, 10:15:10 »
I'm sure Turtle won't mind me stating that his SC ones were, errr....not so good !!
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2006, 13:42:45 »
as i said before you need a prop which is approx 2 inches longer than a 110 rear due to having the disco rear axle fitted  :roll:

the flange is a multi spline on the diff but it depends if its a 24 spline axle or a 10 spline axle,if its a 10 spline axle it has 4 splines on the flange,if its a 24 spline axle its a multi spline flange,
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2006, 16:40:04 »
Quote from: "RedlineMike"

the flange is a multi spline on the diff but it depends if its a 24 spline axle or a 10 spline axle,if its a 10 spline axle it has 4 splines on the flange,if its a 24 spline axle its a multi spline flange,


Ok now I am confused :shock:

Sorry if I have got you repeating yourself.
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2006, 16:48:11 »
Your rear prop should cost much less as you wont be needing a dc shaft. The reason you dont need one on the rear is the shaft is much longerso the angle becomes less.
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2006, 17:49:03 »
is the end caps on the rear axle flat or domed?
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2006, 18:06:39 »
Think I'm looking at the right bit........ the half shaft cap is domed with the 5 bolts holding it on! :oops:
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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2006, 18:09:55 »
14mm bolt heads or 17mm bolt heads?
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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2006, 18:22:27 »
just checked, 17mm
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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2006, 18:33:42 »
right
in which case it "should" be a 24 spline axle & should have a multi spline flange,

PM budgie as i got him a flange kit for his disco which has a multi spline flange & i canny mind the part No
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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2006, 19:09:02 »
Thanks Mike, you have been a great help!
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