Hi Clones and Kenlowes

[Cheggs]

Hi,
    I Have just had a Caravaning Holiday in the Highlands covering about 1500 miles 800 of which was towing the van. My Disco was getting a poor 19 mpg round town (swmbo driving the kids about etc) so I fitted the Hi Clones that up it to 22 mpg, just before going up to the Highlands I fitted a Kenlowe fan with the Van on I was getting 19.5 MPG and averaging 26 - 27 mpg with out, I just thought that I would let you know that Hi clones and Kenlowes do definately improve MPG, I'm now considering converting to SVO and perhaps a K+N filter, are there any other ways of improving the economy of my disco? :D

[Big Rich]

I have a Kenlowe fan on my disco. Works well. It has more go and reduced my fuel bill.

Rich

[davidlandy]

Kenlowe - I can understand fuel economy benefits - Hiclones , nah.

show me the scientifc evidence.

[drmike]

Getting an improvement of what nearly 40% from 19.5 to 26 mpg just by fitting a Kenlowe is truly amazing.

You'd have thought LR would consider doing it from the factory if they're that effective especially as I get 30-32 mpg from my 300 TDI with mixed driving. I could expect maybe 40+ mpg.

Mike

[Cheggs]

Not just a Kenlowe the Hi Clones as well, the only other change was the annual service so new filters, the hi clones on there own made a difference increasing power slightly and improving response, I To had doubt's but they have worked in my case, I well let you know what the MPG figures now we are home and swmbo is using the Disco in it's usual role. the Hi clones gave a 15% Increase and the Kenlowe afurther 22%,
 
 :D

[Range Rover Blues]

And this is on a TDi or a V8?

[Xtremeteam]

kenlowes sook the boaby,

a pacet is substancially more efficent in use

[Elmo]

Not just a Kenlowe the Hi Clones as well, the only other change was the annual service so new filters, the hi clones on there own made a difference increasing power slightly and improving response, I To had doubt's but they have worked in my case, I well let you know what the MPG figures now we are home and swmbo is using the Disco in it's usual role. the Hi clones gave a 15% Increase and the Kenlowe afurther 22%,
 
 :D

I'm not saying you're wrong, and I run a Kenlowe myself, but even they only claim 8-10% improvement in their advertising. Maybe other service items or changed use produced the radical increase?

Interesting stuff about the Hiclones, have been looking at them and an uprated intercooler for a while, trying to make my mind up.

[Cheggs]

Elmo Wrote

Interesting stuff about the Hiclones, have been looking at them and an uprated intercooler for a while, trying to make my mind up.

I'm not saying that of the changes I made that any one is has caused this massive improvement, but as a whole the figures speak for themselves, it was getting expensive to run but is now obtaining some where near the Manufacturer's stated 28mpg, and means I shall be able to keep the old girl. The Hi clones were fitted on their own and the vehicle was in normal use so the 15% for them is honest, the kenlowe and service just before going on Holiday (2 days) so change of use could alter the figures, as for Pacett fans being better, yes the air flow is better but they are Fractionally more expensive and aren't sold by Paddocks so you have to pay postage, so the kenlowe was the with in my budget. If I fit a larger intercooler will that further improve power and fuel economy?

[Range Rover Blues]

Well I'm looking at a Kenlowe (2 in fact) for the LSE and my biggest concern is peak air flow, though TBH since I did the timing it doesn't get hot.

[drmike]

As always only my opinion but ...

If you were only getting 19 mpg from a TDI engine then either you were driving it very, very hard or there was something wrong with it.

I have had my 300 TDI Disco for 3 years now and it always works out at about 30 mpg unless I'm towing when it's probably closer to 25.

I'd guess the decent service contributed most of the improvements. Wre the tappets adjusted, all filters changed, sludge trap cleaned out?

What about tyres? I have just put some decent tyres on the back, the previous Wranglers had worn in the most ridiculous way and I reckon I've gained 2 mpg but to be fair that's included more motorway runs than is usual.

Personally I have always been very suspicious of Kenlowe's claims for 8-10% improvement in mpg. I guess it's theoretically possible but as I said before if it was that easy home come LR don't fit from new? They could certainly do with the better mpg for boosting sales green cred.

Mike

[drmike]

RRB - I ran a classic RR with a 3.5 on carbs with electric fans. These were two HUGE Fiat fans. To fit them you had to cut the end off the shaft that pokes out of the water pump rthat takes the viscous fan etc - you know the bit that pokes out from the water pump and has pulleys and stuff attached.

Most people cut and put a blob of weld on the end to hold it all on. I didn't fancy that and had a locel engineer make up a taper pin to hold things on and then he wired it up so there was no chance it could get loose. This meant that if I needed to I could take the bits off the shaft with no problems.

I still have the fans and modified water pump as I swapped the V8 and thought they'd be useful one day!

I now have 2 TDI engines.

Mike

[Range Rover Blues]

LSE is a soft-dash with serpentine belt, oh and it's 5.0litres.

TBH the viscous is doing it's job so I'll try it again with the 'van on, of course the weather is now cooler :roll:

[colintandy]

i use hiclone,kenlowe fan,k&n,uprated intercooler,sports exhaust system,molyslip in engine and gearbox and transfer box mixed with rockoil fully synthectic gear oil in diffs done loads mods to engine , :? but as soon as you put a roofrack on  a 2 inch lift  235/85/16bfg mud terrains front winch and winch bumper rear uprated bumper full under body armour my mpg is good if i am and like a v8 when im not good ....when you get a landy of any shape or size i think you should not worry so much about mpg but worry if you make it in the first place....  :roll:

[Cheggs]

Well the truth of the matter is no becoming clear , it appears the change of use was the main reason, cause now swmbo is back at the helm I'm back at just over 21mpg so a improvement of about 7%, not that I'm to worried she is paying for the fuel now

[Jas278]

I fitted a Kenlowe to my 300tdi , and expierenced cooling probs when towing , my van is a twin axle, after speaking to kenlowe technical they do not reccomend there fans for towing over 1500kgs (a sucker fan that is ) they say fit a blower and leave the viscous on, I have removed my kenlowe and run with my viscous only , my mpg is ***** on my 300 offroader moded up, on  my road going 300 tdi i average 28/30 on a regular basis with a viscous unit. After my probs i wont go back to Electric..

[mark.yellow.series.3]

in swmbo car (renault megan) the fuel computer says it does 35mpg when shes been driving it, when i go out in it, i got 57mpg one day!

[davidlandy]

on one of the cars i have had with a computer on board - the computer says X , but when you work it out the old way you get Y !

[muddyjames]

I have no idea how to work out MPG. How many miles do you get to a tank of diesel?

I have a 300tdi auto (evil auto  :twisted: )  and the last tank of diesel I got exactly 400 miles out the tank. That was doing about 30 miles laning, an hours towing a twin axle caravan and some tootling about in a field setting up a festival so about 10-15 miles doing that. the rest was on the road. The last 30miles I guess I have had the exhaust gas recirculater thing disconected.  It did an hours worth of motorway driving alone and that was doing 60-65. Except for that it was all running around town stuff.

Would you say this is good mpg or [throw it] poor?

I keep looking into the Hi clones and dont know if they would work or not. I am more interested in the time the turbo kicks in not so much the mpg. I was told by a Landy place up near Derby (I forget thier name now) that they get the turbo kicking in alot sooner and there is a noticeable difference in 0-60 speed. At the moment mine feels dangerous pulling out at roundabouts and stick a caravan on you have to wait for a 10mile gapin traffic before I dare pull out :lol: