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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2004, 13:57:23 »
...............and of course, if they get stuck, there'll always be a farmer willing to tow them out!!

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2004, 14:45:07 »
What's the betting that they do someone that can't possibly receive a TV signal yet has a TV for use with a video or games machine.

They're really maximizing their resources.

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2004, 17:01:48 »
Imagine somebody camping in a tent on a remote farm site, and someone taps on the canvas and asks them for their TV licence   :twisted:  :twisted:

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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2004, 17:14:47 »
they prob could get more by turning up in a town with a university....  :wink:
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2004, 17:24:53 »
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What's the betting that they do someone that can't possibly receive a TV signal yet has a TV for use with a video or games machine.


The law is simple here. If you own a receiver you have to pay a licence fee. If you have a TV card in your PC, you have to have a licence. If you can prove you have no way of receiving a signal (like you have removed the necessary electronics from the TV), you should be OK since it is then just a monitor. I believe a VHS or DVD recorder also requires a licence because you can still receive the signal and record it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2004, 18:24:57 »
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What's the betting that they do someone that can't possibly receive a TV signal yet has a TV for use with a video or games machine.


The law is simple here. If you own a receiver you have to pay a licence fee. If you have a TV card in your PC, you have to have a licence. If you can prove you have no way of receiving a signal (like you have removed the necessary electronics from the TV), you should be OK since it is then just a monitor. I believe a VHS or DVD recorder also requires a licence because you can still receive the signal and record it.

Absolutly corect Steve, I used to be in the trade and had a customer that was fined for not having a colour licence when she (an old lady on her own) had a black and white TV because she had a video recorder that was capable of recording a colour picture even though she could only play it back in black and white.
Poor old biddy was mortified :cry:  :cry:
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2004, 23:29:40 »
when i was in halls at uni, the tv licence people came knocking, so while they were on the floor bellow, we piled all our tellies in the room of the only bloke who had a tv licence :)
you shoulda seen the face of the guy when he say 14 televisions stacked up at one end of the room.

and there was nothing he could do about it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2004, 23:35:39 »
from memory i thought they could only get you if your door could be locked, otherwise one licence could cover all unlocked doors (like a house)

dont think it was feasible for them to walk around a halls of residence to inspect

doubt the security would let them through the door?
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2004, 00:11:23 »
The sooner the UK follow NZ's lead and abolish the licence fee the better.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2004, 11:44:48 »
Our lot were going to add a digital levy on top of the BBC license. In the UK the license fee keeps the BBC going. They should have to fight on an even playing field with everyone else.

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2004, 16:10:03 »
Yep, it is a ludicrous system, just like road tax. Sorry 'road fund licence'... yeah, right! Like it funds the roads  :x Why the BBC won't take advertising like all the others defeats me.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2004, 17:09:30 »
They keep on telling use it is our BBC, Cobblers, do I get to say what they put on, do I hell.
Can't even vote with my wallet and pay the money to someone else, if it was a private company and not goverment owned they would say it was illegal (competition commision would not allow it).
Like everthing else in this country, one rule for the them and another rule for us!!!
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2004, 20:51:13 »
the security guards were cheering the tv licence guys on! the guards hate students cos all we did was cause trouble for them. the way we read the rules on it afterwards, was that as we all had seperate tenancy agreements, i.e. one per room, we all needed seperate tv licences.
when me a few friends moved into a house, with all 6 names on the tenancy, we only needed 1 licence. we didnt have one, but heyho.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2004, 13:56:17 »
But I'm glad to see they are spending our money so wisely. Well, at least £17,000 of it anyway! How long will it take them to recover the costs?
Let's say the Freelander is the cheap one at £17000.
Depreciation after a year is about £5000.
Fuel/running costs, well.... that is difficult, but let's assume they are doing 40k miles in the year. At 25mpg and nearly £4 per gallon, that makes £6400. Then £1000 servicing in that mileage. Road tax at £170. That makes £7570.
Labour - say £20000. Is there just one or 2 people? So could be £40000.
Total - £69570.
A colour TV licence is £160 if I remember correctly. That means they have to recover 435 licence fees to pay for it. So, assuming no working at weekends with overtime (more cost!), they would have to recover 2 fees per day. Not totally sure that is likely in a rural area, is it?

Well, that occupied some working time. Good job I am my own boss  :D
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2004, 15:28:50 »
Steve

Your making one big mistake, sorry two,

one...Were talking about government, who says common sense ever comes into this

and two...They dont care its not their money as such

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2004, 17:57:28 »
It is not the money, it is the principle.
I have to pay so they should too.
If they didn't spend the money on that then it would be wasted on something just as stupid.
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2004, 19:43:01 »
And the postman can drive right up to the farmhouse door in his boxstandard van!
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2004, 13:28:52 »
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It is not the money, it is the principle....


Oh, I agree. But there is a conflict in my mind (I know, there are treatments available!  :lol: ). The country is just one big commercial venture and the sums just don't add up. If a company was run like the UK it would be out of business!! Come to think of it, the UK doesn't have any industry left anyway  :roll:
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2004, 12:13:52 »
Grrrr, hate hate hate.

The thing that really wound me up about the detector people was that they had the blanket approach that you had a telly. When I bought my first house I couldn't afford one, well I could but I chose not to. Three times they turned up, I showed them around the house to demonstrate not having a television and then I got court summons regardless!

After lots and lots of hassle I went and bought a tv and licence just to get a quiet life. Astoundingly, they still kept turning up and demanding to see my licence!

I'm slightly appeased though by a nice tale I heard - the detector van went on the ferry to Arran, but by the time it got there, it's wheels had vanished over the side...
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2004, 12:58:02 »
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Grrrr, hate hate hate.

The thing that really wound me up about the detector people was that they had the blanket approach that you had a telly. When I bought my first house I couldn't afford one, well I could but I chose not to. Three times they turned up, I showed them around the house to demonstrate not having a television and then I got court summons regardless!
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I have it on good authority from a friend who used to work for TV Licensing that the building is full of pepole whose only job is to do the bidding of their big, out of control, megalomaniac computer system, which pretty much does what it sees fit.

This was from one of their computer programmers too.
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