Number plates

[SHERMAN TANK]

I was thinking of getting a self adesive number plate and putting it on the top front edge of my bonnet............... Is that legal?................Would the police be funny about it?............And where can you get em, i havent seen any in a while. [-o<

[muddyweb]

Since the changes in the regulations, you will be hard pushed to find somewhere selling them.   A number plate is supposed to require proof of vehicle ownership and is supposed to have the name of the person selling it on the bottom.

Even if you do find one, you need to be careful about positioning it.  The plate  should be vertical.

[j1onnh]

I think you can still get these from camping / caravan centres, but as Muddyweb said since the new regs the Five - 0 get funny about stuff like that, so to be honest i'd stick with the plate you've got on the bumper if I were you. I personally think that the stick on ones look crap anyway, but thats just my opinion, each to their own as they say!!!

try     www.mitchellscamping.co.uk

I know they used to do them.

 :lol:

[Wanderer]

They also should be flat. Adhesive ones on a bonnet or curved surface would be contrary to construction and use.

Ed

[Bush Tucker Man]

They've got to be in a vertical plane, not too sure about the curvature as I'm certain there's a few new cars about that have convexly mounted plates.

Thought 'Stick-Ons' were exempt from the regulations??

But evidently not..........

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/faq/faq_number_plates.htm#26  (Question 26)

[wheels244]

I got pulled for just having this one on the bonnet of my V8 series 3 that I owned a while ago - mind you looking at it you can't really see it - one ticket later - plate on front of vehicle  :oops:

I think he just wanted to hear the V8 burbling through the cherry bomb exhaust  :D

Rob

[hobbit]

Got one on my lightweight, on the slight bend of the bonnet, I've had no probs, even been stopped on a police check with traffic vehicle examiners there, the examiner just came over, smiled and said is it legal? I said yes and stood there talking to him for about 10 mins, I only have the sticky plate on the bonnet, and no other front number plate

kev

[SHERMAN TANK]

Cheers lads
looks though i be best to stick to the one i got,  :(
Dont wanna be upsettin the fuzz they have enough to do round my part of the world




DAVE..................

[Wanderer]

Though they more than enlough to do you can guarantee that they will find the time to do the motorist. After all we're easy pickings.

I saw a copper measuring a young lad's number plates and the letter spacings recently. You'd think they could have found something easier then the size of the plates.
Maybe the lad was a bad 'un?

Ed

[hobbit]

Well the number plate changes, as in font and size has been in for a while, and unfortunately there are a lot that take the mick, normally unless you are doing something silly, getting checked out for a plate violation is quite minor, but sometimes they use it as an excuse if the vehicle is not registered or taxed

They are getting quite hot on untaxed vehicles round notts, seen at least one T5 with a little cam clipped to the roof rail, blacked out all but front side and main screen windows. This cam was the size of a half used toilet roll, was specially kitted to check tax discs

I got stopped in the RR earlier this year, because of the area I was in, pulled me for not wearing a seat belt, did a person check on me, ask about my docs, then let me go when the check came back ok, no fine or nothing, quite polite about it really

Kev

[Wanderer]

It used to be that they'd break the rear light with a truncheon :) it's a bit easier these days to get the tape out to the number plate :)

Ed

[Xtremeteam]

i do no that dingbro do the stick on number plates as my work had to get them for the lotus 340r's that we service

[Matt_H]

I've got one on my disco.  They are curently illegal to sell as vehicle registration number plates - mine was bought as a 'sign with stick on numbers and letter that looks a bit like a number plate'.  

Getting pulled - never been pulled my self - I keep a broken one somewhere in teh car - if I get stopped then I'll tell them that it just broke and I'm always breaking them hence why the stick on too.

Maximum penalty is £20 if you do get done, although that is open to interpretation too as technically they can do you £20 for each incorrect letter, and £20 for the number plate itself.  I've not known anyone get done with more than a notice of conformity though, which basically means you have to take it to a MOT testing station and have them sign something to say its legal (having attached your original!).. I've been in the biek world a long time and it's one of the things to have (personally I can't figure out why as it only draws attention).

My stick on on the disco looks almost verticle and so far touch wood no problems - we'll see at the end of the wales trip in a few weeks.

I think a lot depends on where you live - down in the south wheer I am, people push the rules a lot more me thinks, I'd say 1 vehicle in 20 has an illegal plate due to spacing or size, it's just not worth them bothering about (unless they pull you for multiple things or need it as an excuse for a breath test etc)

Matthew

[v8camel]

Use the stickyones as a 2nd plate
That way if you break lose the proper one at least the reg is displayed

paul
yeovil 4x4 parts
01935 476529

[Wanderer]

The info I gave earlier about plates having to be flat was given to me when I approached a traffic cop about where I could put my plate on the front of the Disco.

I've since looked on the net and can't find any precise mention of this. Maybe it would be down to interpretation as to whether or not they were designed in an effort to "beat" the speed cameras. Obstruction came into the conversation.

However, the same cop said my lights on the roof rack would be illegal and if they were used on the road then I could be "done" for it. When I asked about lorries with exactly the same lights...

"Ah well they are height markers!"

Yeah right.

Any thoughts on that?

Ed

[V8MoneyPit]

The MOT manual (just reading it now) has no specific reference to number plates being vertical. However, one of the reasons for failure is:
"faded, dirty, deteriorated, or obscured, (for example by a tow bar so that it is likely to be misread or is not easily legible by a person standing approx. 20 metres to the front or rear of the vehicle)".
This is the key point, I guess. A plate on the top of the bonnet would not be readable at this distance.... unless you are 12 feet tall!!

But then the law is not necessarily the same as MOT requirements.

[V8MoneyPit]

The lights thing is right. Fitment of roof lights is not illegal, but use of them on the public highway is. There is a maximum height of 1200mm to the top edge of the lamp from the ground. The trucks that use 'spot lamps' on the roof are commiting an offence. The 'marker' lights (small side lights) at the top corners are not illegal.

Another thing here is that the top of auxilliary lights must not be higher than the top of the headlights. This makes use of those bonnet mounted light pods illegal on the road.

Most A bar mounted driving lamps are also illegal (mine included!). There should be a minimum of 600mm between the inside edges of a pair of lamps. And not more than 400mm to the outside edge of the lamp from the edge of the vehicle. This is applicable to 'driving' lamps. They must also be a minimum of 500mm from the ground to the lower edge of the lamp.

Fog lamps are different, but only in the lower limit of 250mm. All other dimension are the same as driving lamps.

[Thrasher]

This is interesting. The police officer I asked said :

As many roof lights as you want *as long as they come on and go off with the main beam* and are *not* independantly switched so they can come on with dipped beam.

My front spots *are* illegal - as they are triggered from my fog light switch - but are above my headlights.

[V8MoneyPit]

The information is from lighting regulations provided by Wipac who we deal with though my business. I assume it is current.

I doubt many police officers would bother booking anyone for lighting infringements unless they thought you were doing something else wrong or there were some other faults with the vehicle. Or they have had a really bad day!!

[Wanderer]

Mine are wired on a seperate switch that takes it's power from the main beam circuit but still won't come on unless another switch (with a light) is switched on on the dash.

His reply seemed quite extreme. Basically he said that if I flashed someone and the lights blinded anyone and caused an accident then I'd be charged with driving without due care.
So what about lorries then?
Oh they are height markers.

Problem is if you look for a hard and fast rule you usually end up with something you didn't really want.

He was a bit flummoxed when I asked about the number plate being on the winch bumper and told him brand new motors had them like that (alfa romeos)

Ed

[diesel_boy]

i got one on monster if i get stoped i just  tell um it better than no nbr plate  like it give us a bill for it orificer