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Offline Bush Tucker Man

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« on: September 25, 2006, 20:36:55 »
I was about to go out to pick 'Small-Child' up from school this afternoon, as SWMBO was over in Scouse-Land for a meeting.
I got in & used the immobilser key as usual, but not a sausage, just all the lights & the engine warning symbol on the dash.

Damn!!

After a quick look at the relays & fuses, I pondered


Earlier in the day after getting home from the regional NFU office at Honley, I'd taken the alarm fob off the keyring as I never set it because sometimes it won't disarm without a fight.

So back into the house, pick it up & hey presto!, a running engine.

I'd only thought that it would operate the alarm, not act as a proximity device for the immobiliser

That was my lesson for the day :oops:  :oops:
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2006, 08:56:00 »
Richard,

Exactly the same thing happened to me - there is a 'passive' immobiliser thing built into the alarm remote (it needs to be near the ignition key hole to disarm). When I had my Cat2 immob fitted (for insurance purposes), I took the LR alarm remote off the keyring - as like you, it doesn't always disarm properly..........and it wouldn't start - a load of lights, and I think the engine warning light came on.

It was suggested to me that as I only have one original LR remote, that I'd been in deep poo-poo if I ever lost it - one solution would be to cable tie/stick the alarm remote somewhere inside the ignition cowling. Doing this would mean that the factory immob was always un-set, but the new Cat2 would still protect the car.

I've not actually done it yet, as it is providing a second line of defence against the thieving scrotes..........I may have to bite the bullet and buy a second LR remote for the second set of keys, and pay a huge load of wedge to have it coded up  :evil:
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2006, 09:57:42 »
Quote from: "Jimbo"
Richard,
Exactly the same thing happened to me - there is a 'passive' immobiliser thing built into the alarm remote (it needs to be near the ignition key hole to disarm). When I had my Cat2 immob fitted (for insurance purposes), I took the LR alarm remote off the keyring - as like you, it doesn't always disarm properly..........and it wouldn't start - a load of lights, and I think the engine warning light came on.

After the event, I assumed that it was 'chipped', but in the heat of the moment....
Adrian Flux insisted on a secondary system when I bought the 110, the day it was fitted it let me down :x  
A dry-joint caused it to immobilse itself a few miles from home.
Thankfully a bit of jiggling persuaded it to work


Quote from: "Jimbo"
It was suggested to me that as I only have one original LR remote, that I'd been in deep poo-poo if I ever lost it - one solution would be to cable tie/stick the alarm remote somewhere inside the ignition cowling. Doing this would mean that the factory immob was always un-set, but the new Cat2 would still protect the car.

I've still got to get a second set of keys cut :oops:  (after 9months :roll: ), as I've locked them in once & had to get them out - which was easy, but I won't say how on here :-#

Quote from: "Jimbo"

I've not actually done it yet, as it is providing a second line of defence against the thieving scrotes..........I may have to bite the bullet and buy a second LR remote for the second set of keys, and pay a huge load of wedge to have it coded up  :evil:

When I got another fob (the old 2-button) for the Discovery off someone local on E-Bay, the local main-dealer (Guy Salmon-Wakefield) 'wrote it' to the alarm & cut another ignition key for less that £15!
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2006, 10:40:44 »
Had a similar thing too. I took the bav mobile in for a service and seperated the keys from the fob. The fob was left in the dash. went back to get it and The fob had been moved as it was left out on the street overnight. The car would'nt start. I new light I had never seen before lit up on the dash. Got the fob out of the box in the back put it on the key ring and hey presto no problems. I was well impressed. I too was unaware about this proximity key fob stuff. Reasuring though!
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2006, 11:35:26 »
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I too was unaware about this proximity key fob stuff. Reasuring though!


Wife's Mondeo does something similar ('04' plate TDCi), if the keys are away from it, it automatically locks itself after 15-20seconds (or so)

I'm tempted to see if it still does it with the keys on the drivers seat, or in the boot - have to leave a window open though (just in case it's got auto-close :lol:)
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