A summary please

[gords]

Being a (ex) Discovery owner, I don't know the ins and outs of "Defenders", so I thought I'd ask

Defender, 90, 110, CSW ... there seems to be so many options! Is a Defender the same as, or different to a 90? Do 90's have rear seats? I don't know what else to ask ... so come on and tell me everything! :lol:

[Jimbo]

Gords,

Defender is the 'new' name for the 90, or 110
90 is the short-wheel base (swb), 110 is the long wheelbase (lwb)

You can get Defenders/90's/110/s in the following body styles:

Truck cab - only front seats, rear window is behind the front seats
Hard top - still only front seats, but covered (with a hard top) loadspace behind
Station Wagon - more than 2 seats, 110's could have up to 12
County Station Wagon (CSW) - a posh version of the station wagon, think it had stripes on the sides, cloth seats and a radio.

And then, all/any of these can have 2 or 3 front seats - if 2, you get a cubby box where the front middle seat would be (you can swap the seat for a cubby box and vice-versa)

Oh, and then there's the double cab 110's - two rows of seats, and a opne/tilt covered rear load space, and the soft-top 90's (NAS style)

I think it's also safe to say (no doubt someone will correct me), that you can havea hard top 90 or 110, with seats in the back, and then again you might find a 90 or 110 SW that's had the rear seats removed (or a hard top that's had side windows fitted !!!!!!!!)

If you think of, and treat a 90/110/Defender like a big boys Meccano kit you can't go far wrong  :roll:

HTH's

Jim

[Rich_P]

Just going to add that the Defender name was added when the 200TDi was fitted to the 90/110/130 as a standard engine at the factory.

Oh yes, also the very early vehicles were called OneTen and Ninety, not 110 and 90. ;)  Infact, the very early ones also had two piece windows and sliding windows like a Series, but were angled unlike the Series windows.

[Jimbo]

Oh, and I suppose we ought to do a list of engine options:

3.5 V8
2.25 Petrol
3.9 V8
2.5 normally aspirated diesel
2.5 Turbo diesel
200Tdi
300Tdi
2.5 Td5

And anything else that you can think of that would fit - Perkins Prima, LDV van lump, various Rover car V6's and V8's, I think the list goes on, and on, and on........

[gords]

See, I knew it wasn't simple! :lol:

Regarding seats in the back - do they face sideways or forwards (please don't say "yes" :roll: ) Do they get full seatbelts or just lap belts? Remember, don't just say "yes"    :lol:

[graham2306]

Sorry mate but the answer is YES.

Land rover fitted station wagon seats in a SWB face inward and have lapstraps, but loads of other people have made inward and forward facing seat as aftermarket fittments.  I have seen forward facing seats in 90's with lap straps, 3 points and full harnesses.

110/one tens/Long Wheel Base Defenders have one row of forard facing beind the front seats then inward facing seats in the very back making them 10 seaters, I think some even go to 12 seats, but not sure how.

The new Defender SWB featured in most of the mags at the moment has two forward facing seats with three point belts, and a Ford Transit engine!

Gosh these Land Rover things are difficult.

Graham

[bezzabsa]

seatbelt..
(based on my 1987 110 CSW)
driver and passenger front FULL 3 POINT
Centre front LAP
 MIDDLE ROW (same as above)
rear benches - side facing - NONE FITTED (BUT CAN BE FITTED WITH LAP BELTS)
also the CSW has tinted glass all round, and option of rear wash wipe and HEATED rear window .. WOW luxury!!!!!!

[Berliner Beer]

My 110 has 12 seats. The driver and passenger have normal seatbelts. The middle front seat is a lap belt.

The middle row has 2 normal seatbelts ie behing the driver and front passsenger. the middle seat again has a lap belt.

The 2 x rear bench seats have 3 x lap belts each.

My 110 is a 1997 300tdi

Good luck!

[bezzabsa]

also with a 90 / 110 engine wise if it fits physically in the bay no doubt someone makes a kit for it
interior - treat as a blankcanvas.. disco front seats can be fitted - and forward facing rears can also be fitted - at the expense of carrying space!
many people also keep a hard top for winter use, and full rag top for summer sun, bear in mind the heaters are weno where near as good as discoveries!!
also doors can be series type, military type (same as series but both windows slide ) or proper wind up window type - be wary of these as they rot like billy-o
also with wind up typw they came with 2 handle options - same as series (ie recessed lift up handle) or a push button type
hope this helps - a little :D:D:D