:D Ok i realise not to many of you read EVO magazine and sorry for going on but they did an article on the panda 4x4 and took it to santa pod it did 0 to 60 in 18.80 and the standing quarter in 20.20 with terminal speed of 63.0mph then without any modifications to the car at all they got it to do 0 to 60 in 8.03 and the quarter in 15.97 at 85.6mph how do you think they did it??? :? :? if you have read the article please hang fire Thanks.... :lol: