green issues

[p4203]

gone due to poss fuelling the anti's :oops:

[jayjay]

Interesting stuff, i did not relise cars only make up 0.5% of carbon emissions, makes me feel better about my V8!

[p4203]

thanks for making clicky :D

[Evilgoat]

I think that he has missed a big point though.

CO2 is only a small part of the problem, CFCs, Methane and other gases contribute as much if not more. BUT global warming is FACT its just down to how much of it is out fault, and when you come down to it, there is plenty of history ta say we have been through it before, the only difference this time is we have accelerated it. There is a finite abount of carbon on the planet, we cant create more and naturally this is gonna get released over time through natural process.

So Yes, valid point about why discrimate against 4x4s, and we need more of that and higher profile too.

But, duff point about climate change. Which is what the anti's will see.

[SteveG]

BUT global warming is FACT its just down to how much of it is our fault,.

Good point but I don't agree with the statement that we are accelerating it. Find me one scientific study that backs up that point please :?:  :?:

I'm of the opinion that we should be using our Natural resources more efficiently, recycling where we can and not being wasteful, but I'm not convinced about global warming being man made until somebody can prove it.

Just stating temperature rises, ice melting, more hurricanes etc when all of these have happened before is no good. Until there is a proved to be a direct link then the doom preachers should stop their scare mongering. It's just they feel that being responsible isn't enough to get people to change so they want to scare them into it, or tax them into it! :roll:  :roll:

just my 2p's worth

Steve

[Range Rover Blues]

Well when it comes to recycling there is no more efficient or environmentally friendly way of recycling a car than to restore it and keep it running well.  We score big on that one don't we?

[Evilgoat]

There wasnt any reason to pull the link mate, as I said, the first bit of it is bang on.

Theres a really interesing article about the famous 'hockey stick' graph of climate change on the New Scientist I was reading last night. I'll post a link to the article later.

BTW I'm on dried frog pills today so apologies if replies dont make sense

[p4203]

only pulled it cos it wasn't my thoughts but a mates who is trying to get his head round it all and he asked me to pull it for now until he gets some more info from other sources. i accept there is global warming but to what degree and what is exactly causing it is a different matter. it doesn,t help with the press on the case every day scaremongering us . but have they thought how much energy is actually wasted producing and delivering there paper in the first place, which to be fair most of the papers and magazines are a pile of junk :shock:

[Evilgoat]

Its actually a really good point, Its March 4th New Scientist he wants for the article.

Makes me wonder if we shouldnt all go out as most have two cars and work out which one is the worst of the two. I know my answer without looking. Audi is longer, Heavier, Wider and uses about twice the fuel of The Rabbit,

[p4203]

not sure for me
99 300tdi disco
75 109 3.3 perkins :lol:
78 rrc v8 efi :twisted:

[Evilgoat]

not sure for me
99 300tdi disco
75 109 3.3 perkins :lol:
78 rrc v8 efi :twisted:

Ok, maybe not such a hot idea, but between my familly and bunnies, I think the Vit is the best and the worst her dad's XJS12

[Range Rover Blues]

Well I have a Diesle Micra for work and run the RRs on LPG, a by-product of refining Eurobox fuel that would otherwise be wasted, so I run my Rangie on my own waste, how cool is that 8)

[Budgie]

so I run my Rangie on my own waste, how cool is that 8)

Doesn't that lead to a rather sticky exhaust pipe!!  8-[  :lol: