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David Bowyers Reworked versions of the superwinch range. Something i'm not getting here? His twin motored beast was something else when i saw it at malvern, by spec it would give the 8247 something interms of line speed to wonder about.
Did a Scorpion Challenge event in mine this year. Drove it home too. So after all the trolling and gobbing off, is Mudlark saying that he doubts the Paj's ability to complete a novice event intact?Here's the Disco just coming in to land! (picture courtesy of www.scorpionracing.co.uk )
Quote from: "Devon-Rover"David Bowyers Reworked versions of the superwinch range. Something i'm not getting here? His twin motored beast was something else when i saw it at malvern, by spec it would give the 8247 something interms of line speed to wonder about.It would give an out-of-the-box 8274 a run for its money... but then at £2500 plus vat it ought to :shock: Put it up against a modified 8274, with twin XP motors... something like the Gigglepin set up, and it's a whole different ball game... plus it's less money. That's assuming of course that David's new winch works for long enough... on the 2 occasions I saw it there were problems... jumping out of gear, oil leaking from the side, etc.Mudlark... once again, you seem to have chosen a quote from someone with an agenda... of course Andy from Ruftraks is going to highlight the fact that a wire rope broke.... he sells Plasma ! And I'll echo what the others have said... an M8000 on a g-wagon... not ideal !
I think I'll stick to my trusty MAP Capstan winch :lol: all 4000Ibs on a single line.
i just cant wait to see this capstan winched shogun competing :shock:
Click here to see who[/url]"]Capstan winchesThese are normally engine driven and often perform superbly when all else fails. Their biggest disadvantage is that they are best operated by two people. This is because a second pair of hands is required to tail off the winch, a procedure like that used for operating the sail winches on large yachts. Only a seasoned expert will operate a capstan winch alone and if this is the case, an emergency engine ignition cut-off switch must be fitted so as to enable the operator, who will not be seated in the cab, to shut down the engine if required. I saw a Series One Land Rover fitted with an original Fairey 3000lb-capacity capstan winch haul 14 vehicles across a stretch of axle-deep liquid sand that no vehicle could traverse. The last and fifteenth vehicle proved too much for the small winch and the worm drive stripped. In the same situation, an 8000lb electric drum type would have overheated by the third or fourth vehicle. The rope for the capstan must be stored elsewhere as there is no provision for storing it on the winch.
Im not sure how safe that would be... i wouldnt want to be anywhere near it..imagine getting dragged into the car????
a fair reputation seems to have been built from those years it had spent being used on the camel trophy.
Quote from: "Devon-Rover" a fair reputation seems to have been built from those years it had spent being used on the camel trophy.But they used warn for a fair few years aswell :lol: Oh & it was 99% 8274's Mudlark........Just admit it you have lost the argument & 8274 warns are the daddy of all winches
Quote from: "SmokeyNtheBandit"Quote from: "Devon-Rover" a fair reputation seems to have been built from those years it had spent being used on the camel trophy.But they used warn for a fair few years aswell :lol: Oh & it was 99% 8274's Mudlark........Just admit it you have lost the argument & 8274 warns are the daddy of all winchesYou have an opinion that you haven't proved
rolazuli, i've just followed your link to Tradewinch, how do you rate their own brand of winches :?: The HTW9500 would be just about in my budget at a push http://www.tradewinch.com/htw9500.htm I intend to put it on the front of my Pajero (no i'm not going to get into the other debate :lol: ) It won't be used as a challenge winch but just for the occasional recovery (insurance policy more than anything).Any comments on this winch :?:
the fact that landrover themselves wouldnt fit a a cheap branded winch?
Quote from: "SmokeyNtheBandit"the fact that landrover themselves wouldnt fit a a cheap branded winch?I would avoid taking that defense, since landrover knowingly fitted lucas electrics to them too :D
Too late - advantage has been taken
Quote from: "redneck"rolazuli, i've just followed your link to Tradewinch, how do you rate their own brand of winches :?: The HTW9500 would be just about in my budget at a push http://www.tradewinch.com/htw9500.htm I intend to put it on the front of my Pajero (no i'm not going to get into the other debate :lol: ) It won't be used as a challenge winch but just for the occasional recovery (insurance policy more than anything).Any comments on this winch :?:Anyone got any comments on whether this winch will fit my requirements :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
you couldnt take part in the top level challenges with any of the cheaper winches i have seen in action. I had a GEW 9000...i dont have one now. It was great in as much as it didnt give up other then when attempting to pull a GWAGON(they are made of lead). My xp is way way faster.The problem with the cheaper winches is the speed or lack of it. The top lads have winches that under no load are much quicker than walking pace...the gew wasnt much quicker than snail pace......
there are fast ones, but they aren't cheap and they need to be powered by something, which usually involves a pump (and despite what you may hear a power steering pump isn't enough) and they tend to involve the engine...it's all swings, roundabouts and possibly small plastic slides
