Winches Again

[Mudlark]

no brake pads in 4 yrs - you clearly havent been using your motor hard enough ole chap  :!:

Oh I have it's just when I get moving I hardly ever stop - No stopping Shoguns you see :(biglaugh):  :(biglaugh):

[davidlandy]

oh i see

they simply dont work!

 

[Mudlark]

oh i see

they simply dont work!

 

I don't know, it must be cus it keeps using a gallon of fuel every 35 miles :lol:

[bullfrog]

I had a one owner shogun!
Doing the same as my mates in their Rangies killed the shogun in a year !
I have had several and I think the biggest problem is the lack of aftermarket products  available. I made most of the bits for my shogun .
With a LR you are spoilt for choice !
Each to their own though.
I am a LR man through and through 8)

[Mudlark]

I had a one owner shogun!
Doing the same as my mates in their Rangies killed the shogun in a year !
I have had several and I think the biggest problem is the lack of aftermarket products  available. I made most of the bits for my shogun .
With a LR you are spoilt for choice !
Each to their own though.
I am a LR man through and through 8)

I don't know, I used to think that as well but I think you'll find it's only  in this country there is a shortage OME certainly makes stuff for them I think you'll find that Australia and America tend to be overflowing with parts for the jap market as they're not that enamoured with Land-Rover

[Xtremeteam]

no brake pads in 4 yrs - you clearly havent been using your motor hard enough ole chap  :!:

i do pads every 3 weekends if im playing hard,

D6 was a set o rear pads  in a weekend :lol:

[Mudlark]

no brake pads in 4 yrs - you clearly havent been using your motor hard enough ole chap  :!:

i do pads every 3 weekends if im playing hard,

D6 was a set o rear pads  in a weekend :lol:

Interesting....   Why do you use brakes to that extent off-road??
You don't safari do you?  :-k  :-k  :-k  :lol:  :lol:

[Toppa]

Im no expert on winches by a long shot, i have never used an electric winch, mainly because my truck came with a Fairy/superwinch, im a bit lost as to which as i beleave they became the same thing, i dont do trials (would love to one day) but i have used my winch in anger on several occasions, without any problems, have pulled myself dead weight for a approx 30m out of a swamp, using two 90's as an anchour point, at one stage i was dragging both 90's to me rather than me out of the swamp..

The pto can be used with drive going to the wheel, but as said, the wheels drive at a different speed.

PTO's are very strong there is no doubt about it, but they are akward to use, the release on the winch drum is near on impossable to release when the cable is under load, they are ideally a two man operation which in it self slows the whole process down, possably one advantage is you can use them in all gears to give you a veriety of spooling speeds, except of course reverse, but of course you need the engine running to winch, i have been stuck before, stalled out, couldnt start, couldnt winch...

Well that is my 2 cents worth...

Cheers

[Mudlark]

Apparently according to TOR mechanical are coming into their own again with some capable of doing a 1:1 with wheel speed

That means it has to be turning around 16 times faster than the wheel :shock:  :shock:

[davidlandy]

its not about using the brakes Mudlark, its the mud n crap that wears them out

I have done 3 sets of rears in about 3000 miles to 1 set of fronts!

[Xtremeteam]

no brake pads in 4 yrs - you clearly havent been using your motor hard enough ole chap  :!:

i do pads every 3 weekends if im playing hard,

D6 was a set o rear pads  in a weekend :lol:

Interesting....   Why do you use brakes to that extent off-road??
You don't safari do you?  :-k  :-k  :-k  :lol:  :lol:

i did/do occasionally.

as davidlandy says its the mud in the brakes that do the damage,the sites up here dont normally wear pads or wheel bearings but theresa few parts of DC that are a right clay so are very abbbrasive,should come up in april & show us how good your mitsi is

[davidlandy]

that seems a fair offer Mikee

a great opportunity to see exactly how capable they are.

[Xtremeteam]

i mean if you struggle to follo us round the perimiter track im sure roofus in the L200 would look after you  :lol:











*must get a rear locker for D7*

[Range Rover Blues]

you'll find that Australia and America tend to be overflowing with parts for the jap market as they're not that enamoured with Land-Rover

Australia has massive import duties on foreign cars that the japanese have curcumvented by building KD facilities in these countries.  I don't know about the americans but if it's not american it's no good to them.  Ever noticed how you can spot the bad guy in a holiwood film? he's driving a foreign car.

Just take a look at how many Series 1 are still on the go in Oz adn you'll soon realise how much tye value them.  Tney drive Jap because it's so much cheaper.

And anyway, they don't have to worry about rust

[Mudlark]

And back to Warn

Ruftracks[/url]"]
A lot of time was consumed by the spanish team in their Merc g-wagen: They broke their steel cable 3 times during this section and we had to rerig their winch as a result of this. To add to this, the winch itself was not strong enough to do the job (It was a Warn M8000) and had to be doublerigged several times.

[Bulli]

what event was it? m8000 on a g wagon, no surprise that it needed double lining. Was the rope new? how much abuse had it received previously...err etc etc etc. :?
I have been present when 2 winches couldnt budge a g when it was buried..(one of the winches pulled a 110 through on its own,give you a clue).but then again a standard shogun just drove past it...NOT!
David Boyers Dvd shows him quad lining. Double lining is a sensible option. You really shouldnt quote things out of context without the background. I bet the next line wasnt they threw it away bought a cheap chinese winch and went on to win the event.....

[Mudlark]

what event was it? m8000 on a g wagon, no surprise that it needed double lining. Was the rope new? how much abuse had it received previously...err etc etc etc. :?
I have been present when 2 winches couldnt budge a g when it was buried..(one of the winches pulled a 110 through on its own,give you a clue).but then again a standard shogun just drove past it...NOT!
David Boyers Dvd shows him quad lining. Double lining is a sensible option. You really shouldnt quote things out of context without the background. I bet the next line wasnt they threw it away bought a cheap chinese winch and went on to win the event.....

Click on Ruftracks over the quote

Wish I was there in a.... well anything to enjoy it :lol:

[davidlandy]

Mudlark

back to Drumclog7  - you coming then?

[Mudlark]

Mudlark

back to Drumclog7  - you coming then?

Bring it closer and I'd jump at the chance to show you what an nutcase I am,

However I have a commitment at the moment that won't allow me to be away from home the amount of time that would be needed for me to enjoy meself there :lol:  :lol:

So at the moment I'll have to leave it open, if however my commitment ceases to exsist then I shall be there to tow you out  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[Xtremeteam]

Mudlark

back to Drumclog7  - you coming then?

if however my commitment ceases to exsist then I shall be there to tow you out  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 :(biglaugh):  :(biglaugh):  :(biglaugh):  :(biglaugh):  :(biglaugh):

Dave:will you be driving up on the simex's?

[Xtremeteam]

And back to Warn

Ruftracks[/url]"]
A lot of time was consumed by the spanish team in their Merc g-wagen: They broke their steel cable 3 times during this section and we had to rerig their winch as a result of this. To add to this, the winch itself was not strong enough to do the job (It was a Warn M8000) and had to be doublerigged several times.

To be honest chap thats [bauble],to say that it sums up a warn is just pish,using an 8000Ib winch on somwthing that as it stands would be pushing the winch to its limits no mater what winch it was is honestly no use in this disscussion,it coulda been a comeup 8000 & i would bet it still woulda had problems

[Mudlark]

And back to Warn

Ruftracks[/url]"]
A lot of time was consumed by the spanish team in their Merc g-wagen: They broke their steel cable 3 times during this section and we had to rerig their winch as a result of this. To add to this, the winch itself was not strong enough to do the job (It was a Warn M8000) and had to be doublerigged several times.

To be honest chap thats bauble,to say that it sums up a warn is just pish,using an 8000Ib winch on somwthing that as it stands would be pushing the winch to its limits no mater what winch it was is honestly no use in this disscussion,it coulda been a comeup 8000 & i would bet it still woulda had problems

Use? it wasn't meant to be of any use..............




Apart from warming the discussion up :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

[Xtremeteam]

And back to Warn

Ruftracks[/url]"]
A lot of time was consumed by the spanish team in their Merc g-wagen: They broke their steel cable 3 times during this section and we had to rerig their winch as a result of this. To add to this, the winch itself was not strong enough to do the job (It was a Warn M8000) and had to be doublerigged several times.

To be honest chap thats bauble,to say that it sums up a warn is just pish,using an 8000Ib winch on somwthing that as it stands would be pushing the winch to its limits no mater what winch it was is honestly no use in this disscussion,it coulda been a comeup 8000 & i would bet it still woulda had problems

Use? it wasn't meant to be of any use..............




Apart from warming the discussion up :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

Anyway,will we be seing your paj at D7?

[Sheddy]

still waiting for a yes or no regarding the challenge event .... Mudlark made a post about it but didn't give an answer.

[Mudlark]

My answer is above as it stands at the moment, I'd really love to be there and probably take some stick from all you landie slaves I seem to be upsetting at the moment :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

But anything can happen in the next five months  :lol:  :lol:

[Mudlark]

still waiting for a yes or no regarding the challenge event .... Mudlark made a post about it but didn't give an answer.

I'm still thinking about it - I don't really want to use my daily drive on doing it and what I want to get and use I don't think I'm goiing to have ready for the season's start.

But I do intend to be doing the scorpion with a shogun or paj based vehicle so you will get your chance

In the meantime anyone want to buy a sherpa mobile home that's filling my garage so I can get some work done on a real 4x4? :lol:  :lol:

[Xtremeteam]

still waiting for a yes or no regarding the challenge event .... Mudlark made a post about it but didn't give an answer.

I'm still thinking about it - I don't really want to use my daily drive on doing it and what I want to get and use I don't think I'm goiing to have ready for the season's start.

But I do intend to be doing the scorpion with a shogun or paj based vehicle so you will get your chance

In the meantime anyone want to buy a sherpa mobile home that's filling my garage so I can get some work done on a real 4x4? :lol:  :lol:

Poor answer :lol:

I use my daily drive for everything,including heavy weekends :lol:

[extreme90]

still waiting for a yes or no regarding the challenge event .... Mudlark made a post about it but didn't give an answer.

I'm still thinking about it - I don't really want to use my daily drive on doing it and what I want to get and use I don't think I'm goiing to have ready for the season's start.

But I do intend to be doing the scorpion with a shogun or paj based vehicle so you will get your chance

In the meantime anyone want to buy a sherpa mobile home that's filling my garage so I can get some work done on a real 4x4? :lol:  :lol:

nice to c u at scorpion then  
gud luck
ull need it
danny

[extreme90]

still waiting for a yes or no regarding the challenge event .... Mudlark made a post about it but didn't give an answer.

I'm still thinking about it - I don't really want to use my daily drive on doing it and what I want to get and use I don't think I'm goiing to have ready for the season's start.

But I do intend to be doing the scorpion with a shogun or paj based vehicle so you will get your chance

In the meantime anyone want to buy a sherpa mobile home that's filling my garage so I can get some work done on a real 4x4? :lol:  :lol:

Poor answer :lol:

ditto mike, bet i play harded  than u tho  
back from event sun nite
fix monday
work tuesday  :lol:
thats my scedual  :lol:
danny
I use my daily drive for everything,including heavy weekends :lol:

[Sheddy]

Did a Scorpion Challenge event in mine this year.   Drove it home too.   So after all the trolling and gobbing off, is Mudlark saying that he doubts the Paj's ability to complete a novice event intact?

Here's the Disco just coming in to land!  (picture courtesy of www.scorpionracing.co.uk )