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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2006, 18:39:30 »
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I am struggling with the fact of being better off and having more money.
This IS NOT me having a go or anything like.
I too am better off and have lot`s more money than ever before, but I am not any happier, in fact I am more dissapointed with life.
The fact is that society is just too greedy and uncaring than it used to be and that causes me concern. It is also more complicated and the Leaders of this country no longer lead by example, infact the examples they set are just plain wrong, they propogate greed, adultry and selfishness, that is not what society is about.
I would prefer a safe, kind, caring society and less money.


It's fair enough. Diffrent outlooks on life. Everybody wants something diffrent from life. I want more money and a united Europe. I suspect I'm not more likely to get what I want than you are.

You must admit though in relation to politicians that power corrupts absolutely regardless of party or belief.

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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2006, 23:54:33 »
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Under the Tories my pay went up by 0.01% per annum.

Under Labour my pay has gone up by on average 4% per annum.

The person/party who puts the most money in my pocket gets my vote.


Take a look at your council tax and compare it to 6 years ago.
Add up the rest of your taxation, see if your 4% really is 4%.
I would place a safe bet that it is not.

Plus inflation is rising, interest rates are now going up....A familiar picture is emerging.


Don't pay council tax so wouldn't know. It is of course a local goverment tax and not central goverment. I do know that I'm better off than i was and that's all I'm worried about.

I will say the one thing I am disappointed in is that Tony Blair has not done as much to push forward European intergration as I thought he would when he came to power. very dissapointing and an ommission that will probably cost us dear in the years to come.


If you are so keen to join Europe Easyjet have lots of bargain flights, book a one way to higher taxes and all the other fun of funding Europes under achieving members.

I was doing great until Labour introduced IR35 and declared me as a tax evader.
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2006, 00:08:34 »
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I closed mine, put 8 blokes out of work.  I'm not particularly proud of putting them out of work but this government has mad employing people so difficult and costly that I got fed up with it and have gone back to working on my own.  Untill we get a government that doesn't punish guv'nors for keeping people off the dole I won't be employing again.

I have gone back to doing commercial photography and have enough work to warrant taking on one, possibly two people on a part time basis.  Its not going to happen though, I can't be doing with the hassle.
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2006, 00:26:26 »
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Under the Tories my pay went up by 0.01% per annum.

Under Labour my pay has gone up by on average 4% per annum.

The person/party who puts the most money in my pocket gets my vote.


Take a look at your council tax and compare it to 6 years ago.
Add up the rest of your taxation, see if your 4% really is 4%.
I would place a safe bet that it is not.

Plus inflation is rising, interest rates are now going up....A familiar picture is emerging.


Don't pay council tax so wouldn't know. It is of course a local goverment tax and not central goverment. I do know that I'm better off than i was and that's all I'm worried about.

I will say the one thing I am disappointed in is that Tony Blair has not done as much to push forward European intergration as I thought he would when he came to power. very dissapointing and an ommission that will probably cost us dear in the years to come.


If you are so keen to join Europe Easyjet have lots of bargain flights, book a one way to higher taxes and all the other fun of funding Europes under achieving members.

I was doing great until Labour introduced IR35 and declared me as a tax evader.


As I remember IR35 was simply introduced to sort out the situation for people using an middle man to provide a service when the true status of that person was an employee and therefore liable to PAYE and NIC. There were a lot of people out there using it for tax avoidence. If people don't abuse the legisation already in place, new legislation doesn't need to be enacted to deal with it. Unfortunately the majority of the UK have a pathological hatred of paying taxes and will do anything to get out of it. Same people are, of course, the first people to complain about lack of schools and hospitals.


Don't need to join Europe. We are in it. More intergration in Europe will lead to full tax harmonisation (bet you all love Europe if it rules you can get cheap booze next week. Not to worry about the large number of people who will loose their jobs eh!!). I'm happy that a proportion of my tax goes to funding the emerging nations. It's the only way to achieve the unity we all want.


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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2006, 06:11:09 »
We should take Switzerlands example.
They do very nicely out of the EEC in my opinion.
Wouldn`t want to live there though....Have you seen the haircuts and heard their music!

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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2006, 20:57:27 »
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I'm with you on that one i don't employ anyone now just work on my own. I used to manufacture machinery now import it there is no incentive to grow business so why take on the hasstle.

I closed mine, put 8 blokes out of work.  I'm not particularly proud of putting them out of work but this government has mad employing people so difficult and costly that I got fed up with it and have gone back to working on my own.  Untill we get a government that doesn't punish guv'nors for keeping people off the dole I won't be employing again.

I have gone back to doing commercial photography and have enough work to warrant taking on one, possibly two people on a part time basis.  Its not going to happen though, I can't be doing with the hassle.
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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2006, 22:09:33 »
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Unfortunately the majority of the UK have a pathological hatred of paying taxes and will do anything to get out of it. Same people are, of course, the first people to complain about lack of schools and hospitals.  


You really don't want to know how much I've paid into the corrupt system in the last 20 years of being in business, but I'll be right up the front of the queuw to complain about the lack of adequate school funding and an under funded NHS.

I'll also complain about the £100,000,000 that Blair has pleged to rebuild Iraq and the further £438,000,000 he's just pledge to Pakistan.

Look after your own country first, not your own ambition to be President of the Euro Quango.
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« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2006, 13:46:01 »
Well Make sure you all get of ya butts at the next election and make you feelings heard and felt.
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« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2006, 15:38:04 »
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Well Make sure you all get of ya butts at the next election and make you feelings heard and felt.


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« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2006, 20:08:03 »
Blair's legacy? Turning Great Britain into a corrupt over-governed beige euro-state while the other European countries who quite rightly ignore, adapt or sidestep any community rulings which don't suit them look on and laugh.

I agree with most of the other "anti" comments here too, no point repeating them.

As to "we didn't know what he was going to do before we voted him in" why has he been voted in again then? The answer I fear is as we used to say about a neighbouring area of Yorkshire when I was growing up "they'd vote for a dead pig there if it had a red rosette round it's neck".

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« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2006, 09:43:30 »
:)  :) Staying on the ECC theme I see from yesterdays Brussels ruling that we can't buy duty free alcohol and cigarettes over the internet...can somebody explain to me what this gigantic open free European market is all about.I thought it was about trade between the relevant Countries.If you pay local taxes for a product then that should be an end to it or am i being nieve again....

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« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2006, 12:51:16 »
Only the people of Sedgfield put Tony Blair in Parliament, the labour party made him their leader.  Why does he have to be ours?
We have one of those rare MPS who actually spend a lot of time in the constituancy.  He has done lots of good things for us that have improved our lives locally and I really like him.

But and I told him this face to face I decided I hated Tony more than I liked him and voted for someone else.

No one in this country has put Tony in No 10, except a few Labour activists.
It looks like these few activists will choose our next PM too.
It's time the whole nation chose the PM

However much of the failing industry isn't down to him it's down to US thinking the world owed us a living after the 2nd world war, lack of investment and innovation and lack of (and I no it's a dirty word to many) marketing.

But the terror situation is I belive all his fault.  They're only throwing bombs at us cos we threw them at them.
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