Topic: God this things driving me mad (Read 1508 times)

lyndon · « **on:** November 19, 2006, 20:06:08 »

Right then. The front sunroof seal. Leaked all through the last lot of rain, so I got hold of a new one. Fitted it last night. Cleaned all the sunroof guttering right out. Took all the fittings off the glass and sealed them up with silicone sealant. It was leaking right on the passenger side fitting that holds the glass in place. Both rivets had sealant over them. Guess what. Its still leaking in exactly the same spot. I have tried everything. The new seal is perfect. No gaps and 100% as far as I can see. Now water shouldn't be able to get at those rivets. I have even resealed them with silicaone and still it comes. It is much slower than it was but I am still getting wet. Aaaarrrh!!!

thermidorthelobster · « **Reply #1 on:** November 19, 2006, 20:33:02 »

I had that and it was because the seal was the wrong way round. I fitted it the same as the old one, and that had been put in wrong. Might be worth checking.

lyndon · « **Reply #2 on:** November 19, 2006, 20:41:27 »

which is the right way around ?. I have put the thick end outer most and the softer side with ridges innner most if that makes sense ?. Think I'll try the other way tomorrow can't be any worse I suppose.

thermidorthelobster · « **Reply #3 on:** November 19, 2006, 21:16:38 »

Not very easy to describe, because they fit in about 3 different ways if you put your mind to it. But I managed to mess mine up, anyway.

lyndon · « **Reply #4 on:** November 20, 2006, 22:21:26 »

The thing is still leaking like a sieve. Now its coming in through both hinged areas. I can't see how this is happening. inside the gutter the seal sits in are 4 rivets which hold the hinges on. Then the seal sits ontop of these. I have checked, double and treble checked the seating of the seal and it looks perfect. Still water is coming through those rivet, whcih are under the seal. I can't understand it. The seal is so tight its unreal. I have even sealed over the rivets with sealant, which shouldn't be anywhere near water and still it pours in. AAARRRRHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

TDi90 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 20, 2006, 22:24:30 »

its A land rover, they all come with land rover showers as standard :lol:

lyndon · « **Reply #6 on:** November 21, 2006, 08:16:37 »

This is more like a waterfall lol

felix · « **Reply #7 on:** November 21, 2006, 11:34:11 »

Could it be the drains are blocked?

My back one has started to leak like yours filling the head linning with water.

Is there a common fault with these sun roofs or do they all fail in defferent ways?

Felix

Yea defo water fall by the way.

lyndon · « **Reply #8 on:** November 21, 2006, 16:40:40 »

There are no drains on mine?

Guardian. · « **Reply #9 on:** November 21, 2006, 16:52:39 »

i thought they leaked direct of the factory line, standard fitment for all landrovers?

thermidorthelobster · « **Reply #10 on:** November 21, 2006, 18:36:31 »

I'm told there should be a drain both sides, about a third of the way forwards from the back. But I've not checked mine yet so I can't confirm this.

Tyke · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2006, 02:35:13 »

Got two manual sunroofs for sale at mo . . . . unwanted, unfitted, some guy gave them me as spares . . . any offers . . . . . :lol:

The joys eh !!!!!! :lol:

lyndon · « **Reply #12 on:** November 22, 2006, 08:50:09 »

Thanks for the offer Tyke. Theres nothing wrong with the one I have, except the leak. I think I have got it now. Just waiting for the test of time now. I have been testing it with a hose and to be honest its probably more force than its designed for.

I will wait for the test of rain later today.

PS there id definatley no drainage. Its one complete sealed unit the seal sits into.

trustyrusty · « **Reply #13 on:** November 22, 2006, 14:16:45 »

had the same with mine :( found that the two drainage pipes that run between the roof and the lining from the frame were compressed so not alowing the water to dispense quick enough . discovered this after a new seal was brought.

lyndon · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2006, 14:44:33 »

Where are these 2 pipes?. Like I say. I have had it apart and taken the seal out and I can't see any holes or evidence of drainage. I have a metal gutter in which the seal sits. This is then flush with the roof. Water shouldn't be able to get past the seal and therefore no requirement for drainage. Its a one piece item and not a single hole to be seen.

Are there more than one sunroof type?. This is a manual front on a 1990 disco 1.

defuzz · « **Reply #15 on:** November 22, 2006, 21:42:57 »

Mine doesn't seem to have gutters either, its a 200tdi.

Mine seems water tight but it seems to collect condensation, which gives me a shower in the morning, maybe thats causing your problems?

dazzawhipple · « **Reply #16 on:** November 22, 2006, 22:17:18 »

Mine leaked in the end I put vasaline on the seal and replaced every other month it seemed to work

I was also tempted to inject the seal itself with silcone to stiffen the seal up
Basically its a bad design

Darren

lyndon · « **Reply #17 on:** November 23, 2006, 08:31:55 »

Thanks. The plan now is to run a bead of silicone around the seal where it meets the metal frame on the outside. If that doesn't get it then its a mass attack with silicone and duck tape. I am fed up with a constant drip, drip in my face of a morning. It wakes me up but is not very pleasant.

lyndon · « **Reply #18 on:** November 27, 2006, 19:40:03 »

Finally stopped the leak. Got hold of something called weather seal. Its a mastic type material but black and much more bitumous in constitution. I put a big load into the gutter. Put the new seal over that and fitted it properly. I then run a small bead of this stuff around the gap between the top of the seal and the frame. Then put the glass back in and shut it tight to push against the seal as this stuff dried. Its watertight now.

This stuff is great. You can even use it on a wet surface. Although I dried mine out first.

thermidorthelobster · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2006, 14:45:07 »

Out of interest, I replaced my sunroof seal, and it seems to have stopped the leak. I never did find the drain points, because with a hulking great roofrack in the way you can't really get at much.

beast5680 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 05, 2006, 20:24:00 »

my rear sunroof keeps leaking and it was nothing to do with the seal, it was the actual outer mounting for the roof opening into the roof of the car not the glass, it got a tube of windscreen bonding glue pumped round it the other day as i got fed up with it and that seems to have cured it but we,ll see :roll:

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Guardian.