Topic: Pay N Play under age (Read 1302 times)

Range Rover Blues · « **on:** November 22, 2006, 13:11:42 »

My mates wants to know if there is any way for his son to drive a 4x4 off-road under the age of 17. He's starting grass-track next summer but someone's given him a suzuki jeep (don't get exited, it's got no floor) and he wants to play with it.

Littledan · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2006, 13:13:00 »

at whaddon u can drive at any age there as its private land but im not sure what the rules are anywhere else!!

dan

laser_jock99 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2006, 13:24:22 »

I let my 5 year old 'have a go' at Avon Dassett. Addmitedly it was only the camping field and I had control of the pedals- but he thought he was really 'froadin!

Mudlark · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2006, 13:25:47 »

AWDC do Tyros for 14+

There may be a few sites that cater for kids biggest problem is their insurance I think Wood Park does in South Wales

Trefil on the edge of the Brecons is a disused quarry. If you ever get there you'll find kids as young as 4 or 5 driving around on quads

mike142sl · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2006, 13:32:23 »

Isn't the old airfield at Norton still open?

I've let my 13yr old drive the Rangie along Houndkirk nr Ringinglow but I'm not entirely sure if this is still counted as public road or not. Does anyone know how the law stands on green lanes for driving ages etc? There is a bit of a mud play ground at the Fox House end.

Mudlark · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2006, 13:39:19 »

Green lane is the same as a public road

datalas · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2006, 13:48:45 »

Quote from: "Mudlark"

Green lane is the same as a public road

a green lane *is* a public road.. not just the same as one

dazzawhipple · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2006, 13:51:01 »

Green lane is a public road so you must be taxed Motd and insurerd ...oh and the speed limit applies

smo · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2006, 14:45:06 »

Quote from: "dazzawhipple"

Green lane is a public road so you must be taxed Motd and insurerd ...oh and the speed limit applies

Wouldnt that be national speedlimit as they are unclaimed/unmade roads - so, waaay faster than you'd ever wanna go!

mike142sl · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2006, 14:47:28 »

Quote from: "dazzawhipple"

Green lane is a public road so you must be taxed Motd and insurerd ...oh and the speed limit applies

Thanks for clearing that up, doing 60mph on green lanes would remove a bit of mud from the wheel arches!

Bulli · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2006, 15:04:01 »

or in the case of houndkirk, you wheels! remember we are very visible out there!

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2006, 15:11:00 »

Mike, whereabouts are you then? do we ever see you at the pub meet?

Eeyore · « **Reply #12 on:** November 22, 2006, 15:27:33 »

Unfortunately I've got the relevant book packed away somewhere but I beleive the general rule of thumb is that if the public has access, then the rules of the road apply. Pay and play sites are open to the public, therefore in theory drivers need to be liscensed in tax and insured vehilces. For competitive events the rules are very different (hence kids racing go-karts, grass-trackers, triallers, bikes etc and having a ball doing so).

Campsites count as public places, so be carefull! They had big clamp downs at Billing and a lot of folk got caught out!

There may be some scope in seeking a local owner and negotiating private access to a site or field somewhere, but without the book I can't quote the relevant bits of ruling, so don't take it as gospel!

HTH
cheers
8)
Eeyore

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #13 on:** November 22, 2006, 15:32:11 »

That is a grey area, if the private land/public access has only one entrance/exit then it isn't counted as a thoroughfare and different rules apply, weird but that's how it is. Also if pay n play has an entrance fee, it's not public as such.

Anyway, I was wondering if any of the pay n play sited have under 17s driving and if so what the score is.

Toppa · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2006, 18:36:35 »

I have seen kids driving at Whaddon, which i think is wrong, all sort of implications arise if one of them run into you, and god forbid someone is hurt as a result, although it is a private site, im sure the old bill would have some serious things to say about it in case of injury...

I dont know how much the disclaimer would stand up in that case.

Maybe there should be some supervised underage event as some of these sites...

Cheers

Bush Tucker Man · « **Reply #15 on:** November 22, 2006, 20:33:45 »

Quote from: "mike142sl"

Isn't the old airfield at Norton still open?

If you can stand to come up into North Yorkshire, there's Tockwith Driver Centre

http://www.arks.co.uk/dir-tockwith.html

I'm fairly certain they used to offer under-17s tuition, but phone/e-mail & check

Location

mike142sl · « **Reply #16 on:** November 22, 2006, 20:35:55 »

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

Mike, whereabouts are you then? do we ever see you at the pub meet?

I'm about 5 mins drive from Ringinglow accross the valley. I don't get much chance to get to the pub meet - but one day perhaps.
I wouldn't mind having a go at the muddy bit at the other end of Houndkirk but you need mates with winches I think just in case, so if any of you are planning a trip out there I might be interested in tagging along for a bit of instruction etc.

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #17 on:** November 23, 2006, 01:24:08 »

We're off out on Dec 29th to North Notts, it's within an hour of you, why not tag along. Lots of great scenery and a bit less damaging than the peaks if you're a newbe.

mike142sl · « **Reply #18 on:** November 23, 2006, 10:06:38 »

I might well do that. It's a day I'm supposed to be at work but if it's quiet.

Will you be posting details on here?

Rich_P · « **Reply #19 on:** November 23, 2006, 15:07:52 »

Quote from: "Mudlark"

There may be a few sites that cater for kids biggest problem is their insurance I think Wood Park does in South Wales

Yes, Wood Park Off-Road most certainly does (at least last time I was there they still did it). Well worth the money too in my opinion.

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #20 on:** November 23, 2006, 17:54:25 »

Quote from: "mike142sl"

I might well do that. It's a day I'm supposed to be at work but if it's quiet.

Will you be posting details on here?

Thread already under way in the Greenlaning section, Tim started it though.

muddyjames · « **Reply #21 on:** November 23, 2006, 19:32:25 »

I know of one club over Standstead way who do trials and they have a junior section for anyone under the age of 18 I think it is so there are places that accomodate under 18's. Maybe of some use for you?

tomcat · « **Reply #22 on:** November 23, 2006, 21:49:32 »

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

That is a grey area, if the private land/public access has only one entrance/exit then it isn't counted as a thoroughfare and different rules apply, weird but that's how it is. Also if pay n play has an entrance fee, it's not public as such.

Anyway, I was wondering if any of the pay n play sited have under 17s driving and if so what the score is.

hi.
the lang dale quest has no age limit using your own vehicle 50,000acres in north yorkshire. and wear dale off road centre has no age limit 500acres in county durham.hope this helps.
john t :D :D

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #23 on:** November 26, 2006, 16:40:05 »

Thanks, that does. My mate lives in Rotherham so LQ is not too far, I might even join him one weekend.

Mudmonkey · « **Reply #24 on:** November 28, 2006, 23:25:13 »

RRB, KORC is a good place and anyone is allowed to drive as long as they are supervised by an adult. I know that because I drive there all the time! Check out http://www/korc.co.uk

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