new mot regs

[generation-x]

anyone else heard or seen that they are trying to bring into effect that u only need to have an mot ever 2 yrs??
4 on new cars??

simon

[gunner]

Found this sounds ok but would it happen ??????

Less frequent MoTs would save millions for motorists
Anthony Browne, Chief Political Correspondent

Test regime is at odds with the EU

Present rules are too stringent

 
 
 
Annual MoT tests for cars are expected to be scrapped after a Treasury review of EU red tape suggested that it was unnecessarily burdensome.
The study found that Britain’s 22 million motorists would save £465 million a year if they had the MoT test less frequently, and that there would be no obvious decrease in road safety. Treasury officials said that they would consult police and road safety groups before going ahead with the reform and that it would take about a year to come into effect.

 
 
The MoT change is one of ten bureaucracy cutting measures recommended by the review into the impact of EU legislation. The review, conducted by Lord Davidson of Glen Cova, QC, found that the Government often “gold- plated” EU rules, making them far more stringent than necessary.

The study found that the gold-plated regulations — which range from banking controls to animal testing and consumer protection — cost British businesses and consumers £670 million a year.

The MoT test system, established in 1968, is the second toughest in the EU, with only Latvia having tighter controls. Drivers must get an MoT test when a car is three years old, and in every year thereafter. However, EU law requires a test only every other year after a car is four years old. In France, Germany, Spain and Italy cars must be tested only every second year.
Changing the starting point for MoT tests to when a car is four years old, rather than three, would save drivers £80 million a year in fees, as well as the time taken to drive to and from the garage.

The report says: “Given that the frequency of vehicle testing in the UK is among the highest in the EU and that cars have changed a lot since 1968, it could be argued that UK drivers face unnecessary costs by comparison to their counterparts in other member states.”

The Davidson review suggested there was little evidence that making the tests biennial would make the roads more dangerous, but that the Government should study the issue more closely.

The review also suggested reducing controls on animal testing to make it less difficult to get a licence to conduct experiments. It said that there were unnecessary regulatory burdens — such as on scientists working temporarily in Britain — that could be scrapped without an impact on animal welfare standards.

It also said that town halls should not insist that food workers attend training courses, since EU regulations required only that they be supervised or instructed.

Consumer protection laws should also be streamlined, since there was an overlap between EU and domestic legislation that led to public confusion and unnecessary litigation. The review said that simplified procedures for complaining about faulty goods should be introduced by 2009.

Other areas identified for deregulation included insurance, financial controls on banks, fishing policy, rules on waste and road haulage licensing.

Tina Sommer, of the Federation of Small Businesses, said that the recommendations were a good start, but added: “This won’t solve the long-standing problem of the flawed processes by which all EU laws are implemented.

“It is disappointing that the report shied away from recommending an independent body to monitor this process.”

On the road

There are 32 million licensed vehicles being used in UK

One third (30%) of all young drivers have driven without insurance and 13% think it is acceptable to drive without insurance

As many as 30% of motoring mothers drove without an MoT for a week, 10% for up to a month and 19% for longer than a month

Driving without an MoT carries a fine of up to £1,000 and possible disqualification

It is estimated that more than six million British motorists have driven cars that have not been deemed roadworthy
Sources: Kwik-Fit; RAC Foundation; Department for Transport

[TDi90]

yup read that this morning in the paper...
sounds ok i think.

[Boggert]

Thas how it is in Czech, car has to have a service to make sure its road worthy every 2 years.

[extreme90]

id rather have a mot test evey 12 months 2BH
cos then it gives you a good insight into what condition your vehicals in
even tho how highly maintain it and even if you think its sound there always something wrong somewhere that you missed
and sometimes can be a matter of life and death
u think bout it
us offroaders
we hammer our trucks, and with the mot off our consience 4 2 years, our maintinence will drop  :shock:
and a " ah itll be ok" attitude will be taken
id rather no what wrong with mine than not no
mine went into mot station with a fully steam cleand underside and fresh undertreatment to show not hiding nuffink everything was mint
i still had partialy siezed calipres so failed on operation brake being to weak  
but this is only my view but am sure theres more, just who dont want to say
danny

[Lee_D]

id rather have a mot test evey 12 months 2BH

Me too.... Do all me own stuff but MOT usually picks up on bearings and track rods that I would miss as most of my maintainance is on my own.

[Hangover]

I presume that if this was to happen it would only start on vehicles newly registered after a certain future date,what's up with the present system anyway as most cars only get attention now at mot time and are we going to see armys of VOSA gestapo stopping and checking vehicles for roadworthyness.

If Brown wants to save motorists money why doesn't he reduce tax on fuel!!

More Labour (EDIT).

[barnhill4x4]

The study found that Britain’s 22 million motorists would save £465 million a year if they had the MoT test less frequently

 
  That work out that I would save £21! They dont own a landy do they!

[TDi90]

LOL yeah i suppose that is the way of looking at it!

[Bunnie]

my pug goes for its first MOT in march and too me it makes sense to have them more regular than less because of the attitude people would take and again how would it not decrease roadworthyness other than costing you double every 2 years esp when it comes to things like brakes and other major but minor bits we might miss when checking the car over ourselves.

for instance ive been around enough cars to roughly get an idea when something is wrong but after only haveing heard screachin noises from me brakes for a week i had infact been very close to needing not only brake pads but new discs too...

routine maintance weather done by yourself or by a garage insures to keeping the cost to a minium by spreading things out.

 If MOTS become every 2 yrs does that mean people will service there car more offten or just leave everything to the last min dispite possibly driving a very dangerous car for the best part of 6 months.

to me its deffinatly a strange one and i cant see how it wouldnt increase the number of unroadworthy vehicles and save anybody money.

[Range Rover Blues]

Italy and Spain don't have the winters we do, they don't have the salt on their roads and they don't have the salt air coastal atmosphere.  Be nice if we only had to tax them once every 2 years though [-o<

[snezza69]

If it comes in, they will look at getting the cash back else where, how about another rise in fuel tax?

[discomummy]

Hi,

I lived in South Australia where they do not have any testing on vehicles at all - you should see the wrecks (oop sorry ) cars that are on the road.  The car that hit me (resulting in a write off car and twins being born at 6 months) was a complete nightmare - no brakes, steering seized .......and due to the law not requiring you to have insurance - no insurance.  

I would hate for cars to be tested only every other year - whilst i moan about the MOT - at least it means that cars have brakes etc and the major problem is the idiot driving it.

Regards

ela

(Disco just got thru mot with only a £300 bill inc mot costs - not bad for a 7 year old, sister-in-laws punto at 5 years old bill was £600)

[Mudlark]

I think when you have kids you suddenly appreciate the MOT and the piece of mind it gives you to know your car is not going to fall to pieces on you

[Evilgoat]

Having lived in Canada where they dont have the test I have to say no, leave it as it is. Its only £45 and gives you a heads up on the condition of your car and gives you a chance to know about problems before bits drop off.

Ever had a car fail an MOT drastically, looked at it and thought Man, I cant beleive I was driving that!. well you could have been for another year under the new regs.

Nice idea, save the motorist some money and cut red tape, but misguided in this case.

[V8MoneyPit]

I find it astonishing that they are thinking of extending the period between MOT's.

As cars become more complex, fewer and fewer people are even lifting the bonnet to check the oil. How can they be expected to recognise a fault that could prove fatal when they don't even know how the bonnet opens?

And as for emissions... well! The government are bleating on about exhaust emissions and then they are suggesting it's OK for cars not to be checked so often. So now it's OK to drive around in a poorly maintained car pumping noxious gases out the back, is it?

This government has turned into the most hypercritical one I have ever known.

[Lostboy]

Yeah, I don't think I'd be happy with a two year cycle. Sure, the stupid wee things like number plate lights not working can be skipped but I like a professional mechanic to look at mine from time to time - they always spot something I've missed.

[Sooty]

Be nice if we only had to tax them once every 2 years though [-o<

If it comes in, they will look at getting the cash back else where, how about another rise in fuel tax?

Can anyone see a flaw in this idea:-
Do away with the road tax and add it to the fuel tax!!!
That way the vehicles that use the road pay for the road :shock:  :shock:
Too simple is it???

[V8MoneyPit]

Be nice if we only had to tax them once every 2 years though [-o<

If it comes in, they will look at getting the cash back else where, how about another rise in fuel tax?

Can anyone see a flaw in this idea:-
Do away with the road tax and add it to the fuel tax!!!
That way the vehicles that use the road pay for the road :shock:  :shock:
Too simple is it???

Unfortunately, there is a flaw in that too! If trucks pay more tax in fuel then all the goods we buy as consumers would rocket in price. And I don't think that would go down to well with the voting public. So the answer would be to introduce a waiver or reduced rate for trucks...... then taxi drivers would be up in arms....... and coach companies....... etc.   :D And then you end up with a more complicated system than you started with!

[Sooty]

The Taxman already needs to know how much fuel we use for business and how much for private so just reclaim the tax on the business mileage in the same way you reclaim the VAT. :roll:
Why not :?

[Mudlark]

The study found that Britain’s 22 million motorists would save £465 million a year if they had the MoT test less frequently

 
  That work out that I would save £21! They dont own a landy do they!

Are Britain's motorists really that gullible? They are not going to save £465 million a year or even £21

The two yearly MOT will cost £125 for starters :roll:  :roll:


 :oops:  :oops: Forgot to add > after labour gets back in on the strength of it :lol:  :lol:

[Lawnmower]

Ever had a car fail an MOT drastically, looked at it and thought Man, I cant beleive I was driving that!. well you could have been for another year under the new regs.

.

yup, 1st landy (I was had!!!)

failed on loads of stuff, including a main chasis rail that had craked in the middle!

[marjan]

My mates Disco failed on severe corrosion and the MOT guy said that in a crash it would have dissintegrated killing him and his 2 young children. I hate the MOT but at least when it (eventually) passes I know that I'm reasonably safe for 12 months.

[Jas278]

12 months , not too much to ask 1 inspection per year, I suppose were lucky they dont wabt to change it too 6 monthly............................................................DONT TELL THEM :!:

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Having travelled round Europe a fair bit, I am never ceased to be amazed at the amount of 'bags of cr*p' cars there are on the road over there. The problem is that now we have more 'EU citizens' turning up in the UK, from even less careful countries, I can see the situation on the roads of the UK getting worse than they are now.
I have been involved in 'road safety matters' for over 15 years and have seen some real horrific examples of badly maintanied vehicles that made my blood run cold, especially on cars and trucks from the new Eastern European member states.
Keep it at 12 monthly intervals for safety's sake.