Tailgating 101

[muddyjames]

When I did my minibus test you had to use the engine for breaking or you failed. there is even 1 part of the test where you have to get into 4th gear and slow the minibus down down to a crawl at tick over in 1st without touching the breaks.

I think it is only the car test where your not supposed to use gears but any other test you can use gears as I used them as I say in the minibus test and also in the trailer towing test I was aloud to use the engine then as well.

[Rich_P]

Look rich. admit your wrong and stop digging yourself a hole.  :lol:

About what?

[Devon-Rover]

As mark points out.

The landy isn't a tractor, it might of origanally be designed as one but it aint now. current tractors have gearbox technology up in the worlds of sports cars with tiptroninc et all gearing systems.
If the current test demands that you don't engine brake then simply don't arguing the toss isn't going to win any prizes on here.

I'll freely admit i engine brake when condition demand it, mostly when towing in the 90 as there has been occasions where the brakes are on the verge of setting light to themselves.  :shock:  In the series i'll release the accelerator and let the revs drop off in good time and shift down when nessacery then continue on, i'm never really going all that fast to need the brakes. Only when in the lanes or the odd junction do i actually need to put the anchors on.

[Range Rover Blues]

Oh Rich, it's Range Rover Blues B.Eng DSA ADI (car)

Alright, I hold my hands up.  :oops: But what do you do about tractors then?  You need to use engine braking on those...

Different test now, has been since '97.  Probably for that reason, amongst many others, like you can tow a trailer up to 2.3 metres wide with a single axle or pair of axles close together so they act as one axle.
Oh, and take consideration for other road users (honest).

[bezzabsa]

When I did my minibus test you had to use the engine for breaking or you failed. there is even 1 part of the test where you have to get into 4th gear and slow the minibus down down to a crawl at tick over in 1st without touching the breaks.

I think it is only the car test where your not supposed to use gears but any other test you can use gears as I used them as I say in the minibus test and also in the trailer towing test I was aloud to use the engine then as well.

HGV test you have to start in 1st and drive through ALL the gears - and back down again without stalling or riding the clutch.

[att]

Many stories of tailgating, mostly funny.....Some a bit funnier :lol:

Hope to find out about the details of LGV test early next year :D

[Sider]

When I did my minibus test you had to use the engine for breaking or you failed. there is even 1 part of the test where you have to get into 4th gear and slow the minibus down down to a crawl at tick over in 1st without touching the breaks.

I think it is only the car test where your not supposed to use gears but any other test you can use gears as I used them as I say in the minibus test and also in the trailer towing test I was aloud to use the engine then as well.

HGV test you have to start in 1st and drive through ALL the gears - and back down again without stalling or riding the clutch.

Yup, the dreaded "Gear changing exercise", 1st to 4th and back. However, if at any point outside that exercise you use the gearbox to slow down you get a minor. Do it enough and you fail (you can use exhaust brake and retarder, though)

With cars.... I am still to see the first incident of brake fading in a car, at least on a sensibly driven car.

[Skibum346]

When I did my minibus test you had to use the engine for breaking or you failed. there is even 1 part of the test where you have to get into 4th gear and slow the minibus down down to a crawl at tick over in 1st without touching the breaks.

I think it is only the car test where your not supposed to use gears but any other test you can use gears as I used them as I say in the minibus test and also in the trailer towing test I was aloud to use the engine then as well.

HGV test you have to start in 1st and drive through ALL the gears - and back down again without stalling or riding the clutch.

Yup, the dreaded "Gear changing exercise", 1st to 4th and back. However, if at any point outside that exercise you use the gearbox to slow down you get a minor. Do it enough and you fail (you can use exhaust brake and retarder, though)

With cars.... I am still to see the first incident of brake fading in a car, at least on a sensibly driven car.

Sounds like you boys are talking about the difference between a "Skill Development Exercise" and a "Summative Assessment".

The first is used to provide practice in aspects of a skill, the second assess the effective application of that skill at the correct time for the correct reasons.

Skibum

[muddyjames]

When I did my minibus test you had to use the engine for breaking or you failed. there is even 1 part of the test where you have to get into 4th gear and slow the minibus down down to a crawl at tick over in 1st without touching the breaks.

I think it is only the car test where your not supposed to use gears but any other test you can use gears as I used them as I say in the minibus test and also in the trailer towing test I was aloud to use the engine then as well.

HGV test you have to start in 1st and drive through ALL the gears - and back down again without stalling or riding the clutch.

Yup, the dreaded "Gear changing exercise", 1st to 4th and back. However, if at any point outside that exercise you use the gearbox to slow down you get a minor. Do it enough and you fail (you can use exhaust brake and retarder, though)

With cars.... I am still to see the first incident of brake fading in a car, at least on a sensibly driven car.

I was in a 12 seater rubbish minibus with no exhaust brake or retarder and had to use the engine to slow down. I didnt get any minor points for it.

I had brake fade in a postie van once where the hand brake didnt quiet hold and went through some puddles up a drive a bit further down to where i was delivering too to cool them down again. You did say sensibly driven car. That wont be a postie van then!!!!

[mmgemini]

Rely on the brakes entirely, no engine braking, shift straight from fourth to second upon approaching a junction you are turning on or a roundabout etc.

Please please now that we have icy roads can I watch.