NO BRAKES!!!

[baz2236]

Got in my SJ this morning after de-icing the inside and the outside got going down the road came to a junction and realized I had no brakes luckily nothing was coming before getting to the next junction i pumped the brake and the pedal felt alright but when it comes to stopping again i have to put my pedal to nearly the floor for the brakes to work. A few weeks ago i replaced my calipers and bled all my brake and they have been working fine. I went out in it again this evening and its the same thing when the engine is running if i pump the brake and hold my foot down on it, it doesn't go to the floor. Has anyone got any ideas what is going on. if it helps this morning when i started my brake was frozen on.

Barry

[generation-x]

has it been ok upto now since you did brakes?
if so i wud say servo has a leak or maybe rear cylinder has popped any fluid inside ur rear wheels?

simon

[baz2236]

All brakes were alright up until today i will get under it tomorrow and check for leaks.

[Popeye]

has it been ok upto now since you did brakes?
if so i wud say servo has a leak or maybe rear cylinder has popped any fluid inside ur rear wheels?

simon

When the cylinder pops is it repairable or not

[Timi]

When the cylinder pops is it repairable or not[/quote]
Depend if you mean slave or master cylinder. mast I would like to say that you could use it if it pops out but the slave sylinders just clean up replace and adjust brake shoes. and blead brakes you did not say if the vehicle had been left sitting for a while as this may have been an air pocket in one place in the system causing lack of braking action.

[baz2236]

the last time i went out in the jeep was Saturday so it has been sitting on my drive since

[Popeye]

I meant the rear brake cylinders that push the shoes out

[markyb]

rear ones are ok. clean them up and pop them back in your have to bleed it through if it des.

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if you dont have any leaks    . you may need to bleed some more you might have some air still in there.  i found that before brakes are fine then later on you get a rubish brake pedal. scary moments

[baz2236]

This afternoon I got chance to strip one side down the drum was full of water and mud the brake shoes are pretty much worn away and on 1 side the wheel cylinder is out quite away and the other side is sitting about right i have tried to budge it but it seems solid even losening the bleed nipple did'nt help anyone got any suggetions or is it time to get a new cylinder what sort of price do these go for?

[generation-x]

baz if the pusher?? aint square on it wont go back give it a wiggle and make sure the spring is ok
one option is while the brakes are playing up go for rear disc conversion?? if you need new rear shoes and cylinders its gonna cost ya between 50-100 quid roughly
you can get a rear disc conversion for about the same money might be worth lookin about

simon