keep losing brake pads

[windowlicker]

hi guys another query for you

when i brought the disco there was a rear brake pad missing that i was told fell out so as i lent the car to my brother in law he agreed to fit the new ones which saved me a job :)

all was well untill he lost a front one but we put this down to the front bearings falling to bits so we replaced both front bearings pads and seals and with a little advise from you guys the disco was once again mobile.

however tonight he rang me and he has lost another pad but he hasnt looked to see which one yet so does anyone know if this is a common problem?

also it has spat off three altenator belts and it dont seem to matter how tight i put them on it eventually spits them out what am i doing wrong on a job this simple :oops:

the most annoying thing is i havent even drove the car since i have owned it but i keep having to shell out for the repairs i have never owned a car like it :x

kev

[dave_2A_2.25Turbo]

For pads to fall out there must be something missing, surely?

As for the belts, for them to be spat off something must be bent or out of line, I would have thought.

[Pete]

Did you fit new retaiing pins, and anti-chatter spring plates with the new pads?  Have to buy them as a seperate item now. (whatever happened to the days when they came as a kit with new pads?)

 Belt. Probably a badly aligned pulley. Check  the alternator bracket, if it's been over tightened in the past, it could be running at an angle to the direction the belt runs.

 Pete.

[POTASH]

pads dont just fall out theres something missing

[gee the sparky]

the most annoying thing is i havent even drove the car since i have owned it but i keep having to shell out for the repairs i have never owned a car like it :x

kev

hate to say it mate, but lending cars out is a nightmare,
especially to family.
they never come back as they left you.

[windowlicker]

cheers for the replys lads

i used the old pins and clips on the front and i belive that the bro in law did on the rear so i will replace all these aswell for peice of mind.

the good news is that the bro in law is sick of it going tits up so as of tomorrow its all mine so should be able to have a good look at it now :D

[thermidorthelobster]

Apart from anything else, if they're just falling out, you're leaving a hefty chunk of metal on the road which could end up through somebody's windscreen...

[windowlicker]

tbo im more concerned with complete brake failiure and potentially killing someone but to be fair the two that have fell out since ive owned it fell out when he was laning so no harm done

[Disco-Ron]

You are supposed to bend the ends of the split pin over when you fit them... to stop the pins falling out.... :roll:

[windowlicker]

who said the pins fell out?

as said i havent even looked at it yet i was just trying to find out if others have had the same problem as you never know

i know my profile says i am from norfolk but i aint a complete swede

[Disco-Ron]

I was kinda jopking, hence the rolleyes...... but you never know!!

[windowlicker]

no worries its only there is a vauxhall site i used to use a lot and people use the roll eyes as a form of sarcasm so i apologise if i got the wrong end of the stick :)

[Skibum346]

Could be jammed pistons on caliper not maintaining grip on the pads as well...

Good luck

Skibum

[windowlicker]

i had a look yesterday and it turned out to be the same rear pad that was missing when i got it but as i said the bro in law replaced them but he didnt check the piston :roll:

the piston had about a quarter of an inch champher (sp) ground of the bottom which has been trying to push the pad out the top of the caliper which has mannaged to bend both retaining pins :o

so replaced all and all is well again appart from its spat off another belt :(

cheers for all the advice
kev

[Richie_EB4]

This is a very common problem on the rear of the disco's...........ive replaced several calipers because they wear out where the pads sit and then they fall on to the disc/hub and then fall out.......pins stay in just the pad that goes missing........another poor design from LR

[windowlicker]

excellent reply :D
as i have replaced the piston i will see how it goes but if they start to look ropey i will change the caliper

cheers
kev

[rommelsraider973]

Just replaced all front and rear pads on my Disco. All new springs and pins  , had to get extra(recently mentioned..why dont they come in with the pads??) cleaned out with brake cleaner spray and wire brushed all areas before re-fitting. Lots of copper grease on all surfaces , now good as new....just taking a bit of time and care ....does help!

As to the belts , maybe your tensioner is off centre a little bit? Does it give of a bit of a squeak as well? If so give me a call as i hace a suprising mod that will hopefully sort it all out for you!! Dont worry , it took me a new set of tensioner bearings and 3 belts before mine was sorted!! :lol:

My number is available through my e-mail at buzz973@hotmail.co.uk


Hope we can get you sorted??

[windowlicker]

hi mate cheers for the offer but i should of mentioned its a 200tdi with no tensioner but a couple of washers spacing the alt out has touch wood at the minute temporarily sorted it :D