Topic: Legalised Scam (Read 1202 times)

dazzawhipple · « **on:** January 03, 2007, 18:55:59 »

What a crap end to the day

I had to pick up my wife from hospital today so parked in my usual car park (I say usually car last used it 3 years ago!!)

Come back to the car pay my Ã‚Â£2 to get out and I have a Ã‚Â£40 quid parking ticket .....after looking about at the barrier there is a notice saying between 9 and 5 its for staff after that its for visitors yet all the blue signs direct you to this car park

Now very peed off

Never had a ticket what so ever

simdeb · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2007, 19:05:44 »

can't you argue it pointing the signs are very misleading espeacially if your disylexic! not that i think you are just an excuse for you to try!

Sooty · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2007, 19:16:23 »

I am not recommending you do anything illegal but if this is a private car park and that ticket had blown off or been removed buy an unknown third party how are they going to find out where to sent you a reminder???
I may be wrong as far as I know the data protection act only allows the police to PNC check a vehicle if a road traffic offence has been committed, parking on private land is not a road traffic offence

davidlandy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2007, 19:37:08 »

Parking at hospitals is a farce - you have to pay for parking for a place that you dont even want to be at , cos u are ill, or visiting somebody who is ill, or work there

grrrrr

lose the ticket Daz, the worst they can do in the first instance is write to you.

MAKE A STAND!!

att · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2007, 19:56:45 »

Another tax on the motorist.
I find it hard to beleive, but our local DGH, Eastbourne, are charging the staff to park, I feel it is wrong for nurses to have to pay to park for going to work.....Just wrong. :roll:

Drift · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2007, 21:51:14 »

It is wrong for any british citizen to pay for a hospital car park (like you really wanna be there :roll: )
We already pay for them through our taxes, we will be paying for hospital meals next

Ste

defuzz · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2007, 22:33:44 »

Quote from: "Sooty"

I may be wrong as far as I know the data protection act only allows the police to PNC check a vehicle if a road traffic offence has been committed, parking on private land is not a road traffic offence

unfortunately the DVLA will give your details to anyone who claims to have a good reason, this now includes parking nazis......

Lucy1978 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2007, 12:45:34 »

but what legal powers do they have if you refuse to pay?

Big Watty · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2007, 15:07:16 »

I've found in the past that a reasonably worded letter to the issuers of the ticket can help in not having to pay - you'll no doubt find if you get to stroppy you'll get nowhere

winchman · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2007, 22:24:28 »

Big watty is right I would go for this
Sadly if you have good reason to DVLA will give the registered keepers details to most people.
Police often register there own cars to the station they work in for this very reason

Range Rover Blues · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2007, 02:21:09 »

If it's private land and you are no longer there it will be very hard for them to persue you. I know of a local council P&D car park that cannot be enforced because the council did not bother to ask themselves for planning permission for it to become P&D, what a farce :lol:

If it's not on the highway then it's a civil matter AFAIK.

winchman · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2007, 07:40:14 »

Thats right but the only thing you have to watch is the land owner could claim damages from you for his grass being damaged etc, its going to be difficult for you to defend your self.

dazzawhipple · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:31:08 »

It is a civil matter .....but I have sent an appeal off to them will have to wait and see

The only thing that bothers me is that I followed the parking signs which lead me to this car park after re checking my route there is no mention of the status of this car park

Only at the barrier to the left of it you look to the right to get the card is a sign stating the dual status of the parking area!!!

Okay I should have seen it, If i had and parked in there then there is no worry about the parking ticket just pay it

Budgie · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:44:10 »

Dazz,
If the appeal letter doesn't work then put something together in the form of a Press Release and send it to the local papers and radio stations. Making the point that the hospital signage directs visitors to this carpark only for them to receive a Ã‚Â£40 fine for actually using it.

If you have to pay, you may as well make them pay as well!! :twisted:

dazzawhipple · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:51:59 »

Quote from: "Budgie"

Dazz,
If the appeal letter doesn't work then put something together in the form of a Press Release and send it to the local papers and radio stations. Making the point that the hospital signage directs visitors to this carpark only for them to receive a Ã‚Â£40 fine for actually using it.

If you have to pay, you may as well make them pay as well!! :twisted:

Budgie

Funny you should say that after getting the ticket I sent my wife back in the hospital.... whilst I was waiting I was going to have a sandwich but the BB dates where 22/12/06 (it was the 3/1/07) I now have a couple of pictures

This may have to be used.....

Darren

pilgrim · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2007, 09:29:01 »

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If you have to pay, you may as well make them pay as well!!

totally agree that you shouldn't have to pay, but lets not go overboard - hospitals are starved of cash as it is.

dazzawhipple · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2007, 10:17:21 »

Quote from: "pilgrim"

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If you have to pay, you may as well make them pay as well!!

totally agree that you shouldn't have to pay, but lets not go overboard - hospitals are starved of cash as it is.

OKay I have no problems with the NHSor anybody associted with it thay do a grand job but I pay tax and NI for it surley operating parking charges cost them money would it not be bettter spent elseware???

Staff should not pay but neither should someone with an appointment

I live 10 miles away so public transport was not an option

Darren

Darren

Budgie · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2007, 11:08:55 »

Quote from: "pilgrim"

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If you have to pay, you may as well make them pay as well!!

totally agree that you shouldn't have to pay, but lets not go overboard - hospitals are starved of cash as it is.

I was actually talking about payment in terms of bad publicity rather than any financial burden!!

Plus you're doing a public service yourself by warning other visitors so they don't find themselves in the same situation. :D

davidlandy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2007, 18:35:21 »

I say give em the bad press - whichever way you look at it paying for parking at a place like that is bad , whether you be an employee or a patient, or a visitor - ok if you are going there just for a laugh or to use the car park for visiting the local shopping centre, then fine, expect to pay.

I often wonder how much it costs in the admininstration and collection of the fees by comparision to how much comes in in revenue. At our local hospital staff now have to pay Ã‚Â£20 per month to park and thats DOESNT guarantee them a space , plus if there is a 2 tier system for them depending on engine cc, over a certain cc = more money! If I was staff and had to pay Ã‚Â£20 per month I would be tempted to build a little garage on that spot and lock it up when I wasnt there!!!

Complain to the hospital and let them escalate the problem to the authorities, and then onto government tot give them the correct budget to work with rather than squander the extra they get on admin tasks, and reports. Once again the motorist is a soft and easy target.

Dirty Gertie · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2007, 19:26:43 »

When my mum was dying in hospital, I spent a few nights sleeping in her room, one day I left my car on the car park and had a lift home to shower, change etc, and I accidentally left the 'pay on exit' car park ticket in the jeans I had taken off, so to get out of the car park, I had to go to the car park office and notify the staff of my 'lost' ticket. The man I spoke to told me that they would send me a bill for the fee; which they would charge at the full day rate of Ã‚Â£10, and in fact, this would be substantially less than the fee I would have had to pay in the ticket machine, since the car had been there over 24 hrs. Mum died on Nov 20th, as yet I've not received a bill for the ticket.

A legal note; if the signage is not clear, or is placed in such a manner that the motorist would not see it (ie, on the opposite side to that to which your attention is directed at the time) then you have a case for not paying, if you cannot be held in law to have been 'notified' you canot be expected to know! I can't remember the precedent case, but there defintely was one.
HTH

hairyasswelder · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2007, 19:52:11 »

Quote from: "Drift"

It is wrong for any british citizen to pay for a hospital car park (like you really wanna be there :roll: )
We already pay for them through our taxes, we will be paying for hospital meals next
Ste

Why not do what Morrisons and Asda do?? If you dont use their 'services' you pay. Refunded at checkout

If you have an appointment, then you get a free parking ticket for say 2 hours printed on the slip, if not then you pay..... stops people parking there for convenience.

My g/f is pregnant and it must total Ã‚Â£40 quid so far........... Hope she has a quick birth :roll:

Steve

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