More tax for the motorists

[missroadrage]

Democracy in action?

The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.  

On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit in time you can probably expect a Notice of Intended Prosecution with your monthly bill.

If you care about our freedom and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website (link below) and pass this on to as many people as possible.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

To quote Bender from Futurama

"They can bite my shiny metal ass"

I'm sorry, but I think this is going a bit too far now.
How much longer are we going to put up with this? Will our European cousins be getting the same thing? I can just see the French, Spanish and Italians sitting back and saying OK.
I bet all the Government vehicles will be exempt.
Who remembers the effect of the Fuel Protests?

[sleeplessparadise]

Well if that was brought in I would be giving up work. I earn minimum wage looking after old people with no petrol allowance because I work fora charity and driving anywhere between 10 and 25 miles a day...... I would end up paying to go to work.......... I think NOT

[Tailendcharley]

:)  :) I've also read and discussed this topic and at the end of the day the big question is.....'WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT'.....suggestions please.............. :o  :o

 :)  :) Terry Smith  

[goblin]

if every body sticks together they cannot prosecute the whole country time this government were on there way and they can take ken livingstone with them

[Tony F]

:)  :) I've also read and discussed this topic and at the end of the day the big question is.....'WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT'.....suggestions please.............. :o  :o

 :)  :) Terry Smith  

Well for a start go and sign the petition. Now officially the fastest growing petition to Government ever!

[Pete]

Downing street stated earlier today.

 Tony Bliar insists that he will "press ahead" with road pricing.  Despite public opposition, and the massive petition recieved on the .gov website.

 When asked, "How many petitions had actually influenced government policy?" a spokesman said,"The online petition process had only recently begun"  From that you can read, absolutely none.

 Bliar, and quite a few of his cronies, know that they would never win another ellection. That's why he's going, and a lot in marginal seats know that they will be going soon after him.

 They don't give a damn for the pople of the uk, they have their massive pensions to look forward to, and probably nice easy well payed jobs in the EU, allong with the other labour rejects. Mendelson et al.

 Bliar thinks he's bullet proof. Time some one proved he isn't.

 Pete.

[jjsaul]

drive old LR's and dont have the box fitted (or wired up)  

[Evilgoat]

I bet all the Government vehicles will be exempt.
Who remembers the effect of the Fuel Protests?

Just a point, legislation was also pushed through last week to station military at vunerable depots. On top of that the month after the protests Mr B.Liar also pushed through changes allowing the military to be used to keep depots open in the case of a blockade.

So no, I dont think we'll be seeing the protests at them again :( I was involved in the last ones.

[07DefenderSeb]

Or we all pay a granny £5 a month to put all our boxes on her immaculate F reg Micra which does 10 miles a month.

We save buckets, she gets as much central heating and fig rolls as she can eat over the winter!

[Cate]

Donedid.

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

One simple solution would be not to buy the wretched things or pay the tolls.
It would be interesting to see who much of the motoring/road using public would actually refuse to tow the party line.
For instance, if 50% of the road users, did not pay it, went to court, refused to pay fines and got handed a custodial system.
Could the current legal system cope with that? Would the Police actually want to be locking people up for what is seen by most as an unjust money grabbing scheme?
I am reminded of when I got called in to assist with covering the fuel strikes. My mobile developed a fault, and funnily enough I couldn't get any fuel for the Disco to actually get to where I was supposed to be. How odd.
I don't like to be the 'Harbinger of Doom', but if this is allowed to carry on, there is a very real chance of massive civil 'disobedience', something which the Bristish nation, (when it wants to) can be very good at, and before any of the little departments of HMG that monitor all Email traffic get excited, that is my own opinion!

[Evilgoat]

I don't like to be the 'Harbinger of Doom', but if this is allowed to carry on, there is a very real chance of massive civil 'disobedience', something which the Bristish nation, (when it wants to) can be very good at, and before any of the little departments of HMG that monitor all Email traffic get excited, that is my own opinion!

During the feul blockades it got pretty damn close. Thing is from the lines and workign for Hantsamb at the time we made damn sure that fuel destined for the services got out ok, Trouble only started when they got one out saying it was for the services and it ended up delivering to a supermarket for the public. Even then it was minoroty of people that caused issues.

And the biggest thing about it was that the public actually caused most of the problems themselves.

[thermidorthelobster]

The best solution would probably be to run over Tony Blair.  But in the absence of that pleasure, I've signed the petition.

[Jimbo]

Just copied this off the petition site:

BETA TEST
The e-petitions system launched in November 2006. It is currently in a public "beta test". This means that users are welcome to sign and create petitions, but we will be making changes to the site, as we fix technical problems, improve usability and respond to feedback. A series of changes have already been made after our review of the first month.

In other words - if the database crashes, we've not got any backups, so all the petitions and signatories will be lost...........to&&ers !

I can't see how 'they' can make us buy and fit a box to our vehicles - and (as has already been said) how will the old bill police this, they will spend more of their precious time tracking down nova-driving scrotes who don't have 'black boxes' fitted, and less time catching real criminals.

[Tony F]

I can't see how 'they' can make us buy and fit a box to our vehicles - and (as has already been said) how will the old bill police this, they will spend more of their precious time tracking down nova-driving scrotes who don't have 'black boxes' fitted, and less time catching real criminals.

The same way they "make you" pay for your driving licence, will make you pay for your ID card etc etc,

Get caught without one you have committed a criminal offence. :?

But it will only apply to new vehicles as they wouldn't make a law retrospective would they?

Like hell they wouldn't that's exactly what they did with the NERC Act :x  :x  :x

[Range Rover Blues]

If it comes in I'll be on the dole, no way will I be able to afford to work. Incedentaly, what's the road pricing on green lanes? the one's these b*****ds have not been able to steal that is?

Think I'll be fitting the box to one car and driving the other.

It's about time someone old told the lying t**t that he was elected to carry out the will of the people, not inflict his will on them.  I'd love the chance to prove he is not bullet proof...
....oh, hang on they banned that too.

[Bob696]

they will spend more of their precious time tracking down nova-driving scrotes who don't have 'black boxes'

plus the occosional yellow land rover.

Or I will buy some nail of a car and forget to send the v5 off

Or I will become a 'unemployed'

Or I will move to canada

I am a generaly law abiding sort of guy but I see no way that I could obay this law and stay solvent . I HAVE to do the school run or I have to spend 3-4 hours per day on public transport or I have to get a job at a nearby school where all the kids know where I live and my life would become hell.

When the protest start, I'll be there.