towing limits

[blackbob]

ok guys and girls
whats the max towing weights for your landie then

[bezzabsa]

braked is something like 3500kg for a 110 and RRC
unbraked is 750kg IIRC

[muddyjames]

3.5tonne with over run brakes and 750kg for an unbraked trailer.

I got a shock when I heard the disco 3max train weight recently. Something daft like 8.2tonnes  :shock:

[Disco-Ron]

Yeh, but did you know that if you tow professionaly, ie, you're say a builder, and you tow a trialer with your landie, if the whole thing weighs over 3.5 tonnes(i think) you need to have a tacho fitted....!!!

To be legal anyway!

[muddyjames]

I do indeed know that. I have been into very long conversations with various people about the use of when tachos ned to be fitted etc etc. there are many complicated rules like skip lorry drivers dont need tachos if they stay within a certain radius of base and recovery drivers for cars dont need em and also coaches / busses on certain routes like busses around towns dont ned them as they are on the same defined route everytime. All VERY complicated but you are 100% right about the 3.5tonne limit for builders needing tachos. How many of those builders with flat bed vans with a mini digger on a trailer do you think have a tacho?? Im guessing not enough of them.

And do you think transit vans with tiny trailers that have air compressors on them have tachos?

Tachos are a fantasticly complicated world that not 1 person I know knows all the rules. I had a talk by someone who specialises in tachos even got stumpted whenhe demonstrated to us a digital tacho!!! :LOL:

slightly of topic but worth noting. it may save 1 persons license if nout else.

[Rich_P]

2,000-2,500kg I think for my 2A.  But the transmission is more than capable of pulling 10,000kg.

[muddyjames]

My rover 620i can tow 1200kg legally but have used it recently to a 2.2 tonne trailer off my drive as I couldnt get the hitch up high enough to get onto the disco tow ball. I wouldnt tow the trailer any further than I had too.  :lol:

[Priglet]

Yeh, but did you know that if you tow professionaly, ie, you're say a builder, and you tow a trialer with your landie, if the whole thing weighs over 3.5 tonnes(i think) you need to have a tacho fitted....!!!

To be legal anyway!

You don't actually have to weigh over 3.5 tonnes just be capable of being it. If the trailer is empty but max weights for vehicle and trailer are more than 3.5 tonnes a tacho is required. Fines go up to £5,000 and both driver and employer can be taken to court.

[jjsaul]

3500kg....

although i towed a laden car trailer on sunday then realised it was technically unbraked  :shock: ...19ft car trailer with RRC on it!!!

[Bush Tucker Man]

ok guys and girls
whats the max towing weights for your landie then

So far;
1. Discovery. About 20tons (6x4 tanker) stood on a grass verge & the Discovery on dry tarmac)

2. 110. About  4tons??, a (loaded) LDV LWB pickup -the Sherpa 'update' style- on a snow covered 1-in-8 (just on the Derbyshire side of the summit of HomeMoss (A6024)

[littlepow]

Defender tdi/td5 disco and RR, can all pull 4.5 tonnes with linked brakes.

[Bush Tucker Man]

Defender tdi/td5 disco and RR, can all pull 4.5 tonnes with linked brakes.

Air (or vacuum) brakes are about £4,000 as a factory fitted option

[woody]

cant believe nobody has posted this
http://www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/landrover.htm
from the home page you can get info on a lot of cars

[littlepow]

Defender tdi/td5 disco and RR, can all pull 4.5 tonnes with linked brakes.

Air (or vacuum) brakes are about £4,000 as a factory fitted option

expensive, but still an option.

[chris.hunt22]

i have seen a police range rover pull at 38 tonne artic into a parking area on a dual carriageway when it broke down, I have pulled a 16 tonne coach with my disco on a HD rigid pole as our shunter truck had broken down and the fork lift was flat!! 8)  8)

[madmatt]

my 130's gross train is 7000kg. ie 3500kg gross vehicle and 3500kg trailer. but as said with LR factory linked brakes it 8000kg.

My old 90 was once used to drag a 44 ton artic off the A5 at brownhills one friday afternoon as the nearest police RR was ,miles away. It was fully loaded.

[blackbob]

used a s1 1600cc to pull a loaded flat bed about 20ton in my younger days

[ian_s]

i once pulled my dads 16ton lorry about 15 miles back to the depot when its engine developed a terminal oil leak. it was about 3/4 loaded at the time, so about 14 ton
got to 45 mph eventually, after about 10 minutes on a dual carriageway!

that was with a 2.25 diesel

[RichardRRC]

With regard to the tacho problems, I once asked the Chief of the Wakefield traffic police this question, "I have a 3.5 tonne Transit van with a towing bracket on it, do I need a tacho?" His answer (after 20 mins of thumbing though traffic law books) was "No..but..." As muddyjames suggests it's complicated :?  A 50 mile (I think) radius from home base was mentioned, and the fact that my job description did not include "driver" contributed to the "no" answer.
By the way did anybody see the pics of the VW Tourag pulling the 747 weighing about 150 tonnes :shock:

[AbyssDJ]

i once pulled my dads 16ton lorry about 15 miles back to the depot when its engine developed a terminal oil leak. it was about 3/4 loaded at the time, so about 14 ton
got to 45 mph eventually, after about 10 minutes on a dual carriageway!

that was with a 2.25 diesel

what did you actually tow it with? heavy duty rope or something?

[jjsaul]

i once pulled my dads 16ton lorry about 15 miles back to the depot when its engine developed a terminal oil leak. it was about 3/4 loaded at the time, so about 14 ton
got to 45 mph eventually, after about 10 minutes on a dual carriageway!

that was with a 2.25 diesel

what did you actually tow it with? heavy duty rope or something?

well the usual 1.5 inch tow ropes are usually rated to 12 tonnes...so double em up or get slightly thicker ones...

[Rich_P]

By the way did anybody see the pics of the VW Tourag pulling the 747 weighing about 150 tonnes :shock:

A Series 1 did that when the Series 1 was in production. ;)

[muddymart]

I can remember seeing a picture in a brochure of a police 90' pulling a artic and trailer down the motoway, i just cant remember what the slogan was now....... :oops:

[Range Rover Blues]

A friend at college was into heavy haulage and in one of his book was a funny story about a very large load going north on the A1 (IIRC).  For dsome reaosn it had to stop near the bottom of a long hill, not steep but slightly beyond the restart abbility of the 2 heavy trucks in charge of the load.  With traffic building behind the outfit the policeman at the scene flagged down a series Land Rover that was going the other way, it was coupled to the front prime mover and the extra horsepower tipped things in their favour, the load began to move.

How cool would that look for a publicity photo, it was a well oover 100 tonnes and being pulled by a series.

[Bush Tucker Man]

By the way did anybody see the pics of the VW Tourag pulling the 747 weighing about 150 tonnes :shock:

Richard, it was also laden to over 7tons to help maintan traction