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« on: January 14, 2007, 20:40:58 »
HI TO ALL YOU GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE,I`M ABOUT TO GET MY DADS S2 TD5 DISCO :roll:  :D  :D  AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY DIFRENCE TO LIFTING IT OR IS IT THE SAME AS MY S1 TDI DISCO.
AS I WANT TO PUT MY 265/75/16 ON IT,AND WILL I BE ABLE TO PUT THEM ON THE TD5 ALLOYS OR BEST TO LEAVE THEM ON THE MODULARS THANKS JUSTIN.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 20:46:24 »
Depends a bit on the spec.  It might have air bags on the back, in which case you can lift it by (a) recalibrating the SLABS, (b) putting a spacer in the height sensor, or (c) putting a spacer in the sensor and also under the airbag.  DiscoParts sell the necessary bits.  (You still need to change the springs at the front of course.)

2" or 3" lifts are easy enough, I use Old Man Emu 779s but others use 751s for a bit more of a lift.  Either way, you can fit slightly larger tyres than on a Disco I - 235/85s or 265/75s will fit, although they may rub slightly on the plastic wheel arch liner at the front.  They should fit alloys without issue.

You may also have to jiggle with the ABS sensor cables to make sure they're not overstretched on full travel.  To some extent you can adjust the rubber grommets to give a bit of extra length.  As with other suspension lifts, brake line lengthening may be required, or then again it may not.

Be aware that castor-corrected radius arms aren't yet available for DIIs.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 20:49:42 »
Also, once you have it, you'll probably want to fit diff lock (bits available from Ashcrofts) and cruise control (about 50 quid from Discoparts) if you don't already have them.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2007, 21:33:47 »
THANKS FOR THAT I THINK MINE IS THE SAME AS YOURS IT ON A T PLATE IF THAT HELPS.
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 21:36:37 »
If it's a 7-seater it will have airbags on the back.  They were optional on 5-seaters but many have them.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2007, 21:52:26 »
ITS A 5 SEATER IS IT A BIG JOB AND HOW MUCH ROUGHLY.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2007, 21:56:53 »
It's not a big job.  Take a look on the Discoparts website for prices;  you'll need springs for the front, and airbag extenders at the rear, as a minimum.  If it were me I'd fit new shocks too, but I can't remember whether the standard ones have enough travel.

I'd also recommend you use spring compressors;  if you disconnect the anti-roll bar you can get away without it at the front, but I've always found it a damn site easier with the spring compressors.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2007, 22:00:26 »
DO YOU MEAN SPRING CLAMPS? SORRY TO BE THICK
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2007, 22:15:26 »
They let you compress the spring to fit it more easily (hence the name).  I'm not sure what you mean by spring clamps;  if you mean those little plastic clamp things you use to hold stuff together while you glue it, then I don't think they're going to work on a Disco spring :)
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2007, 22:20:51 »
This is the sort of thing I mean.

Don't go for the MachineMart ones, they'll bend under the load of a Disco spring, which is rather dangerous.

Tip of the day:  when you take the old springs off, it's much easier if you jack the axle up so the spring is compressed, then fit the spring compressor, and then let the axle down, with the chassis supported.  This is much easier than fitting the compressor when the spring's extended and compressing it manually.  You can do the reverse when you fit the new ones.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2007, 17:47:12 »
Could offer a hand fitting a Kit if needed... not that far from you.

And could even tune your 'new' Td5 at the same time!!  :wink:



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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2007, 21:31:13 »
Quote from: "thermidorthelobster"
Be aware that castor-corrected radius arms aren't yet available for DIIs.

David,
I didn't think that anyone was bothering with corrected arms for the D2 as the OEM ones are that much longer than those on the D1 and the effect of lifting (up to 2-3") is not as noticeable??
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2007, 21:36:57 »
That might be the case.  The difference between lifting a TDI and TD5 isn't as noticeable as far as the steering is concerned, but even so I find my steering is somewhat more vague than it was before.  If somebody releases castor corrected arms, I'd probably consider them, then rule them out as too expensive  8)
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2007, 21:39:03 »
Quote from: "Porny"
Could offer a hand fitting a Kit if needed... not that far from you.

And could even tune your 'new' Td5 at the same time!!  :wink:



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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2007, 22:35:38 »
Quote from: "thermidorthelobster"
That might be the case.  The difference between lifting a TDI and TD5 isn't as noticeable as far as the steering is concerned, but even so I find my steering is somewhat more vague than it was before.  If somebody releases castor corrected arms, I'd probably consider them, then rule them out as too expensive  8)


Castor corrected arms are so last season...

Quite a few places now doing caster corrected axles  :wink:
Much better in many respects as keeps the diff pointing upwards - so no propshaft issues - and keeps all the axle parts standard.

Also means you can have any angle of correction you want... from 0 to -15 or thereabouts.


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