Trauma Care

[lenster]

Following the unfortunate events at coney green, if any regional club would like a quick session on trauma care to patients following a vehicle incident then drop me a pm.
It will cover airway management/c-spine protection/basic life support.

Its all current stuff, no lectures, just a bit of advice on how you can look after your mates until the medics arrive.

[wing nut]

good one len    ..life saving suggestion  

[bezzabsa]

im wiff stoopid ^^^^^
Good idea ;)

[Skibum346]

Following the unfortunate events at coney green, if any regional club would like a quick session on trauma care to patients following a vehicle incident then drop me a pm.
It will cover airway management/c-spine protection/basic life support.

Its all current stuff, no lectures, just a bit of advice on how you can look after your mates until the medics arrive.

Is it just me... or shouldn't that kinda thing be a life skill everyone should taught early in life..?!   :-k

[sleeplessparadise]

Is it just me... or shouldn't that kinda thing be a life skill everyone should taught early in life..?!   :-k

Yes it is something that should be taught early, unfortunately the government think it is more important to teach  religious education and how to be a good citizen rather than important things that could be really useful in life :(

[Neil Jones]

Is it just me... or shouldn't that kinda thing be a life skill everyone should taught early in life..?!   :-k

Yes, but unfortunately, as was said in the original post by Lenster, these are the current guidelines, these things change all the time, like the recovery position, or CPR.  If everyone was taught early in life then every year the kids would be learning something different.

[smo]

Is it just me... or shouldn't that kinda thing be a life skill everyone should taught early in life..?!   :-k

Yes, but unfortunately, as was said in the original post by Lenster, these are the current guidelines, these things change all the time, like the recovery position, or CPR.  If everyone was taught early in life then every year the kids would be learning something different.

But knowing somthing is better than nothing with this stuff the basics are still the same, so they change the recovery position or roll technique every bleeding year but the "old" ones still work.

[andyhubbard]

I'm currently trying to get local schools to let St. John in to teach exactly what were on about.They actually have a competion for schools to enter to encourage learning first/basic aid.

[Sharpshooter]

Everyone where i work (Power station) gets first aid training now. Only the basics, but ive used it already. Saved an old guy at work. He severed his finger, and passed out from shock. Luckily for him, he fell onto me.  :?

[Bob696]

Yes it is something that should be taught early, unfortunately the government think it is more important to teach religious education and how to be a good citizen rather than important things that could be really useful in life Sad

Agreed

Got me think though. Will have a word with the head of "Life Skills" (thats what the kids who wont get a GCSE do) and see if something can be done. If they can pass a basic first aider test it instantly makes them more employable.

[Skibum346]

Yes it is something that should be taught early, unfortunately the government think it is more important to teach religious education and how to be a good citizen rather than important things that could be really useful in life Sad

Agreed

Got me think though. Will have a word with the head of "Life Skills" (thats what the kids who wont get a GCSE do) and see if something can be done. If they can pass a basic first aider test it instantly makes them more employable.

Good isea... hope they they take the suggestion!

Might find it captures their interest fairly effectively as well.

[andyhubbard]

Please keep me informed of how you go Bob,will watch with interest.

[murph]

Following the unfortunate events at coney green, if any regional club would like a quick session on trauma care to patients following a vehicle incident then drop me a pm.
It will cover airway management/c-spine protection/basic life support.

Its all current stuff, no lectures, just a bit of advice on how you can look after your mates until the medics arrive.

I take it you will be the Trauma Trainer    well worth others knowing.

[Range Rover Blues]

Yeah I'd be up for it mate, sounds like a good idea TBH.  We always go out laning with a rope and shovel don't we? but beyond a box of plasters I'm a bit clueless.

Anyway, I'm not familiar with the event to which you refer, should I be?

[Range Rover Red]

Copied & pasted from BBC website cos I don't know how to add a link.


"Man killed in 4x4 off-road crash  
The driver of a 4x4 vehicle has died after it rolled while he was using an off-road course in Worcestershire.
The vehicle was being driven along a dirt track near Coney Green Farm off Ribbesford Road, Stourport-on-Severn, on Sunday afternoon.

People tried to resuscitate the driver at the scene before ambulance crews arrived but he was pronounced dead.

A 15-year-old boy from Bromsgrove suffered head injuries and was taken to hospital as a precaution.

A West Midlands Ambulance Service spokesman said: "The field where the accident happened was about a mile down a dirt track from the main road.

"There appeared to be a sort of course that the vehicle had been following when the accident happened." "




 :shock: Absolute tragedy.  Heartfelt condolences to all involved.

[lenster]

8)thanks for the replies, see i knew that i could get you all thinking, and to be honest that is a major part of trauma care.
we all tend to carry first aid kits but these are usually off the shelf items from halfords, ok if you get a paper cut but of no real use in a vehicle related incident.
think large holes and how can you stop the red stuff coming out, keep it covered and apply direct pressure.
the biggest problem with trauma is stress, remember tender loving care, keep the patient calm, keep yourself calm. even an unconsious person may hear you, don't flap around shouting 'this looks bad!'
try to keep an airway open 'gently' watch out for spinal injuries.
get help as soon as you can.
keep the patient warm.

plan your day better and be careful. we all love playing in the welsh hills but you'll be out of mobile range. have you got the skills to deal with stuff going wrong.
know your team, is anyone diabetic? whose the most likely to get into trouble? take the right kit, if you don't use it then who cares, but you never know.

[Evilgoat]

St Johns will oblige but contact county HQ NOT the divisions. If anyone needs to know the addy for their county HQ just ask or look at www.sja.org.uk

Everyone should know these skills and it doesnt matter who teaches them. I would like to arrange a weekend for some of us to get together and do a course with one of the divisions down here as they do a lot of offroad stuff (run two terrano II Challangers)

There are two short evening courses that SJA run, Lifesaver and LifeSaver Babies & Children. I would suggest anyone that can spare the time or even cant, should do at least one of these.