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« on: February 09, 2007, 17:56:30 »
Finally got my RRC started today, having fun with an oversize fuel pump, anyway, fitted a regulator and it seems a bit better, when the engine fired up only the manifold on off side got warm, there is no rad or exhaust on at the moment, any ideas???

This is a conversion from a carb to an efi unit so a bit adhoc I know, but can't work it our, I think the disie has not been touched from the time it left the donor vehicle.

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2007, 19:33:02 »
Has it got lpg fitted. If so the cut off relay is playing up. if no lpg then are you geting fuel to the side that is not firing
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2007, 21:15:57 »
No LPG, fuel is getting to both sides! too much at times but just need to fine the regulator.

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2007, 22:17:41 »
Perhaps it's flooding one bank?  Because you do mention about the overfueling...

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2007, 22:38:01 »
Are you sure you got fuel cause it normally the injector wiring that causes that fault in my experience.  Two sets of wiring feed each bank of four, one left, one right

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2007, 13:39:32 »
yes all connected, I have had the fuel pump up and down today, the engine seems to flooding, so I am now wondering if its the ECU keeping the injectors open too long.

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2007, 18:37:02 »
You can check the wirng continuety from the ECU multiplug to the injectors to make sure they are connected properly, then check the plugs on the non-firing side for petrol fouling if they are over-fueling.  Also try swapping the injector harness from the other side to see if that works ok.  Finally double-check the firing order.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 18:43:47 »
Did have all 8 firing today but only run for a minute, still over fueling most of the time, then next time it will not fire, must have had the plugs out 10 times today at least, I am thinking of changing garages.

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 18:50:55 »
You're not doing it yourself then :shock:
that must be expensive :?
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 19:47:34 »
:oops:  :twisted:  You're not wrong, I wish I knew how  to do it myself the reason I ask questions on here is that I do not trust the garage or now think they know as much as they say they do.

Does anyone know of a good engine person around the Birmingham / Warwickshire area.

£1200 in labour alone so far. :cry:

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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2007, 19:49:49 »
Quote from: "zulublue"
:oops:  :twisted:  You're not wrong, I wish I knew how  to do it myself the reason I ask questions on here is that I do not trust the garage or now think they know as much as they say they do.

Does anyone know of a good engine person around the Birmingham / Warwickshire area.

£1200 in labour alone so far. :cry:
that makes a £100 V8 really expensive,your into TDi money now  :shock:
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2007, 19:55:52 »
Thanks Mike, I feel better now :lol:

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 20:39:50 »
Quote from: "zulublue"
:oops:  :twisted:  You're not wrong, I wish I knew how  to do it myself the reason I ask questions on here is that I do not trust the garage or now think they know as much as they say they do.

Does anyone know of a good engine person around the Birmingham / Warwickshire area.

£1200 in labour alone so far. :cry:


Lordy mate, what did you get for that money? I'd have wanted the V8 supplied and fitted for that price :?

If you were closer I'd say let's drag it over here and I'll fix it in me spare time for beer money.  There's nob all to the EFi system (assuming it's Hot-wire).  I have a sneaking suspicion you already know as much as the garage does though.

Make some excuse (like you ran out of cash) and take it home.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 20:42:57 »
Just a thought, confirm for us exactly what is going into this car, you mention an oversize fuel pump and a regulator, is it an aftermarket EFi or something?
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2007, 04:45:11 »
Standard 3.5 efi engine, I purchased an external fuel pump on ebay, but it runs at 5 bar, so then got a high pressure regulator from Demon Tweeks that runs from 1 - 5 bar, I understand the 3.5 uses about 2,5 bar.

The pump looks the same as this.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FUEL-PUMP-TO-FIT-PORSCHE-911SC-PORSCHE-944-924_W0QQitemZ250081134906QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10408QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2007, 21:24:50 »
Personaly I'd have stuck with the standard pressure regulator but I don't know the spec from the top of my head and the 3.5 EFi will be the flapper system which is a little more complicated but less reliable.  For example the injectors run via a abnk of resistors in a silver box mounted under the air flow meter IIRC, theck these.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2007, 18:31:27 »
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silver box mounted under the air flow meter IIRC


I think this was changed, I poped over there today it is so close to starting, there are sparks from each plug and the coil, it just seems to flood, you can hear it poping and trying to go, it's so frustrating, could the high presure pump have blown the flapper system?

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2007, 18:10:23 »
She's alive, went to the garage this morning walked and and her front wheels were back on, I thought there moving her out to do another job, but no too my amazement she fired up first time, and the proble was, HT leads and disie cap, this has taken a week for them to work this out :? once she is done I will name and shame!!!

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2007, 18:21:44 »
Quote from: "zulublue"
She's alive, went to the garage this morning walked and and her front wheels were back on, I thought there moving her out to do another job, but no too my amazement she fired up first time, and the proble was, HT leads and disie cap, this has taken a week for them to work this out :? once she is done I will name and shame!!!


shame on you, thats a DIY job :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

i should try asking for some of your money back as trhe garage should have sussed that straight away.

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2007, 18:45:19 »
tested all sparks to the plugs yesterday all all worked!!! I never gave it a thought to be honest as the engine was running fine when it was removed, and the disie leads and plugs had not been touched.

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2007, 20:59:53 »
Got to agree with Mark on that one,they should have put new one's on in the first place,if you haven't handed all the money over yet but have your car back then personally I would tell em to go and jump for the rest,that just not on,you have been paying for there mistakes/lack of knowledge  :x  :x

Hope everything turns out for the good though.......
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2007, 21:17:09 »
Thanks Les, I do have a plan :wink:

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2007, 21:38:43 »
Bite back my son,cant be doin with these pi** takers,the wife had the same problem with her new cars first MOT til I took it back and showed them the error of there ways  :shock:  :shock:

Hope your plan works  :twisted:  :twisted:
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You'll never get up there in that !!!!!

 






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