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« on: February 10, 2007, 00:04:22 »
Why do people turn into 104 year old women at the first sight of snow :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

Just arrived home after driving back from oxford via walsall (west mids) left oxford at about 3 this afternoon and have spent the last 9hrs doing about 4mph FOR NO REASON

I accept that its nessacery to take a prcautious approach to driving in these conditions but I've just spent 9hrs in stop start traffic when theres clearly noting to stop for  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2007, 00:26:26 »
i have to admit to doing less than 20mph from hathersage to sheffield tonight...in my defence though the 255/60 road tyres were sliding all over in the ice. Everyone and their grandma was overtaking me lol.

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2007, 08:47:27 »
It is annoying (I drove to work in a queue of traffic at 15mph in a 50 limit on Thursday) but I suppose it's just lack of experience.  They don't have this problem in Scandinavia.  Here, some people crawl along at walking speed, others rumble along 3 feet from your bumper, others maintain the same speed round icy bends and spin off into ditches.

I drove in South Africa a couple of years ago during heavy rain, which people weren't used to at all.  It was like driving in a dodgem car ride.  People were skidding, spinning, bumping all over the place, because they had absolutely no idea of how to drive in the conditions.  Even the breakdown trucks were crashing into each other.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2007, 09:15:02 »
What i hate is when on a dual carriageway all the traffic is in the slow lane, the fast lane is covered in snow but me in my 4x4 is happily trundeling along a little bit faster on the snow perfectly safely. Then the dogooder truck driver, white van man or busybody car driver pull out into that lane to stop you overtaking people.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2007, 09:20:50 »
I hate it when in road works, two lanes converge into one, you get lorries pull out a mile before the convergance and hold people up, obviously bored or stupid, (not all Lorry drivers,  :wink:   just the ones that do this!!  :D ) where research shows if both lanes are full and people merge in turn up at the end, then its quicker than joing the queue a mile away, not do gooders, pains in the a***es!!

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2007, 09:35:40 »
i think the truckers do that blocking thing so that the congestion of two into one can even out as they are stopping more traffic converging.

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2007, 09:43:32 »
if you drive too slow when then the snow starts, then your tyres  compress it and makes it slippy, if people drove a bit faster ( within the common sense boundry!) then the design of tyres throw the snow to the side of the road and watta you know the roads are better to drive..

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 09:49:10 »
I have never understood the logic in blocking a lane when there is congestion. If I was a copper I would book the lot!
 Dual carriageway, 2 lanes used: 2 miles of traffic on a mile of road, 1 lane used: 2 miles of traffic on 2 miles of road. All the junctions in that extra mile are now blocked and peopl that want to leave at that junction no have to sit and wait all because some moron in a truck/van think they are clever.
  What I think is clever is getting in front of them and stopping, that does the trick!

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 09:53:43 »
Quote from: "strapping young lad"
i think the truckers do that blocking thing so that the congestion of two into one can even out as they are stopping more traffic converging.


 No logic in that, there is always going to be a merge point, whether its the one at the front of the queue or the one they created.
  THe people that do it are thoughtless idiots and deserve a ticket. Why make the congestion loger than it needs to be? THere is a road near me where truckers do this all the time, it causes 2 roundabouts to block up further back so then it affects other people not even going down the road with the roadworks on, effectivly bringing the town to a standstill for everyone

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 10:14:53 »
After doing a delivery in Maidstone Thurs morning I wasn't looking forward to getting to the next drop at Barking in the morning rush hour with snow about, did it in record time less than 2 inches of snow made most people keep of the roads no queue at the Dartford crossing sailed right through in less than 45 mins

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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2007, 10:38:05 »
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I have never understood the logic in blocking a lane when there is congestion. If I was a copper I would book the lot!
 Dual carriageway, 2 lanes used: 2 miles of traffic on a mile of road, 1 lane used: 2 miles of traffic on 2 miles of road. All the junctions in that extra mile are now blocked and peopl that want to leave at that junction no have to sit and wait all because some moron in a truck/van think they are clever.
  What I think is clever is getting in front of them and stopping, that does the trick!


Have you ever thought that the reason might be that we are fed up with morons like you trying to force their way in front of us/not allow us to merge/force us to brake suddenly?????

I'm more than fed up with this free-for-all bashing of lorry drivers.

As for getting in front of a lorry and braking, I seriously hope you do it with my wagon next time I have a full load of steel. With a bit of luck,  the largest part of your car left undamaged will be the front bumper, and the video footage from the lorry would go straight to the Police. Humm, car totalled, nicked for dangerous driving, and your insurance premium rocketing to the sky. Yes, please, do it with my lorry.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2007, 10:50:18 »
Quote from: "barnhill4x4"
What i hate is when on a dual carriageway all the traffic is in the slow lane, the fast lane is covered in snow but me in my 4x4 is happily trundeling along a little bit faster on the snow perfectly safely. Then the dogooder truck driver, white van man or busybody car driver pull out into that lane to stop you overtaking people.
  Jealous b'stards


You want to try filtering on a motorcycle...I have had people close the gaps, pull out sideways on purpose and one chap who moved to get out of the way, only to slew his vehicle sideways in my path.....Most car drivers are morons with small dick syndrome.
Had the ultimate last year though a Dutch chap in Belguim actually chased us and knocked us off on purpose for filtering.....And he was a doctor :shock:
Needless to say we are taking him to the cleaners, he injured my wife.
Even the Police said he was a crazy man.

I usually find truck drivers are very couteous whilst I am riding my bikes.....However, when driving a car, they leave a lot to be desired :?

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 11:04:14 »
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Have you ever thought that the reason might be that we are fed up with morons like you trying to force their way in front of us/not allow us to merge/force us to brake suddenly?????

I'm more than fed up with this free-for-all bashing of lorry drivers.

As for getting in front of a lorry and braking, I seriously hope you do it with my wagon next time I have a full load of steel. With a bit of luck,  the largest part of your car left undamaged will be the front bumper, and the video footage from the lorry would go straight to the Police. Humm, car totalled, nicked for dangerous driving, and your insurance premium rocketing to the sky. Yes, please, do it with my lorry.


Have you ever wondered why there are 2 lanes on a dual carriageway? Its because that road needs 2 lanes due to the amount of traffic it carries. So why do you see fit to block one of those carriageways thinking that you are doing the country proud? THere are 2 lanes for a reason then some idiot decides that he will act big and block one because he doesn't like people merging in at the front of the queue. Well now everyone is forced to merge in behind the idiot. All you are doing is making things worse, other people can see it but the minority cant. If everyone used the lanes available then the congestion would be a lot shorter and not affecting the other roads behind. Cant you see that?
  Does it say in the highway code that it is ok to block a lane? What does it say about merging?
  In these situations there are usually signs saying " USE BOTH LANES" but what does hardman truck driver do? Hide in his cab blocking the road.
  I know not all truckers are the same but there are the minority that do this, I have heard truckers on the CB having a go at hardman trucker for doing this so not all think the same way than god.
  And I didn't mean slamming the brakes on in front of the truck. Infact I was joking but I forgot to put the emoticon on.

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 11:19:42 »
I am not justifying bloking the lanes when there's still two lanes, I'm however justifying bloking the lane when the lane has obviously ended, and people are actually cutting into the chevroned / coned area, just to cut in front of the lorry. As for the rest, I'll have you know that the amount of infractions commited by lorries are laughable compared to those commited by the almighty car drivers, specially if you compare the mileage/hours behind the wheel of both groups.

And I don't know how things are done in Wales, but in England the signs will warn you of the merging lanes (very rarely have I seen a "use both lanes" sign when you approach a closed lane) so you can vacate the finishing lane quicker, since research actually shows that if people merge over the last mile, instead of waiting to the last yard, the congestion generated is minimized.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2007, 11:36:52 »
Locking this now, couldn't get any further from the original subject if it tried.

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