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« on: February 11, 2007, 20:24:25 »
As a result of a stupid mistake born through frustration I have bent up one of my rear trailing arms.

I'm searching for another but what are the likely consequences of driving the car in this condition? Both short and long term?

I'll be doing close on 300 miles in it tomorrow as my dads been taken into hospital and I need to get to visit him, am i likely to get any nasty surprises on the run?
Cheers, Nathan.


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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2007, 20:41:20 »
not even going to ask how. How bent is it? the trailing arm controls the rear axle so failure is very unpleasant indeed!!! I really wouldnt recommend it!
If the bend is minor then there is no reason why any major damage would occur. The UJ's will be working harder on the rear prop but thats about all. Have you driven your truck yet? You may find it handles like a pig in knickers as the rear axle may not be aligned!
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2007, 20:56:41 »
Heres the story.

Needed to put back on my alloys and road tyres in place of the mud tyres i've used the past couple of days.

Only slot in the day was between 1 and 2 today.

loosened the nuts on wheels 1 and 2 ok, came to wheel 3 and the only 24mm socket i own split and became worse than useless.
So i got my only 24mm spanner out and using another spanner on the end for leverage managed to loosen the 10 nuts holding the remaining wheels on. But obviously this took a loy, lot, longer than planned.

So anyway in the rush to get the vehicle jacked up I didn't bother to locate the jack properly and hence the weight of the car when jacked was all on the trailing arm. It now looks like one of those expensive cranked ones.

I have driven the car for a mile or so around corners and over speed humps and it feels just like normal.

 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2007, 21:12:28 »
could be a good end to a bad day...bend the other one and you have instant rear trailling arms for free!!
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2007, 21:34:58 »
Which arms are these, the thin ones or the thicker tubular ones? I guess you won't know so measure them.  If the bend means the tube/bar deflects more than it's own diameter I would suggest you are very cautious if you drive it as it will be significantly weaker, that said there is a very large safety factor in their design.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2007, 22:25:24 »
As far as i know these are standard rear trailing arms.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2007, 22:26:00 »
I have a pir take off a 90 to put longer ones on. Geniune LR models.

£50 plus delivery if you want them.

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2007, 22:27:51 »
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As far as i know these are standard rear trailing arms.


Ok, what year is the car, this might help.  Plus how thick would you guestimate they are compared to say your thumb?
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2007, 19:32:01 »
Thanks for the help and advice guys.

I've done the trip today and was only aware of a difference in 2 ways.

1 slight wandering over poor surfaces and,

2 on right hand bends the handling was looser than standard.

It is the offside one I bent.

I've been offered one for a tenner but if they dont show up i'll be asking for your help again.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2007, 21:08:37 »
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Quote from: "Ultra Hunter"
As far as i know these are standard rear trailing arms.


Ok, what year is the car, this might help.  Plus how thick would you guestimate they are compared to say your thumb?


are their 2 different sorts then?
what sort is my 1996 300tdi disco likely to have?
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2007, 21:20:25 »
RRB its a 1991, disco 200 tdi 5 door.

Do you know what diameter they're meant to be? :?:
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2007, 14:00:22 »
From Experience I'd say the 1991 will be the thinner solid bar type, the 96 probably the thicker tube type.

I think the bar ones were a cheaper part, they are probably 20mm diameter and threaded M20 at the top end, the tube type will be 30+mm and the M20 end is welded on.

The sold bar type seem to have been discontinued after a couple of years.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 17:27:41 »
I have no idea what trailing arms look like. where should you jack up a disco then? anyone got a photo????

I jack mine up on where the shock absorber (i think iirr) meets the axle as the trolley jack head fits snug around it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2007, 18:15:09 »
I either put the shoe under the axle tube or the end of the radius arm, either way you need to be careful about getting the teth in the right place to avoid this sort of incident.

The axles on Blue had very odd ARB mounts, on the rear these wrapped around under the axle and made a box that the jack would sit safely inside.  Unfortunatley I tore them off :roll:
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2007, 19:20:10 »
Heres a pic of one of my stainless steel cranked rear arms.



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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2007, 20:38:22 »
I have a pair of standard tube ones from a 300 that will fit yours..........and you can HAVE them FREE if you can collect them.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2007, 21:13:21 »
Wizard thanks for the PM i've replied.

Richie eb4 thanks for the offer, it seems i'm sorted now but if i need to i'll get in touch.
Cheers, Nathan.


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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2007, 01:20:14 »
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Heres a pic of one of my stainless steel cranked rear arms.



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And aftermarket ARB :wink:
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