D3 on TG

[Eeyore]

Okay, Ladies and Gentleman,

Here is the definitive question regarding Top Gear and the D3 'up-a-mountian' test - were they right or were they wrong?

Your vote and comments appreciated.

Remember, were not dicussing the vehicle (which is 2.7 tons of slightly overweight desire), but what they did with it!

Happy voting!

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

[Eeyore]

FWIW, I'm running with the squirrel option  

cheers
 ](*,)
Eeyore

[SteveH]

slightly difficult one, while how they presented what they did was wrong, so is everything they do, if they started every piece on the show with dont try this at home or get permission first etc then it would detract from the show, their expectation seems to be that the viewer should realise that you cant drive your car sideways at 100 plus any more than you can belt down pendine sands or drive off road. I'm not saying that the assumption is correct, just that it is there. Clarkson wrote summit about it in his coloumn in the mag a few issues ago, will try and dig it out.

[keithdixon]

I think we can take it for granted that TG went through the correct channels to request permission for doing what they did.

Granted they could have been kinder to the environment but would that have gained the interest from the viewers, which is what their main reason of being there is.

I would agree that it would bore the pants off the viewers if at each stage on the program they stopped and did the whole health and safety advice thing.  Would we be discussing the fact that they launch a crappy car into a caravan??

It's just our biased opinion, which is making us sit up and speak out.

With regards to the winch use (of which I am no expert) ((actually less than that have never used one)) are we all saying we have NEVER stood close or touched a winch rope whilst under tension?

But finally you have to remember that whilst filming they had a full back up crew with ambulance which had scaled the mountain first...

[turtle]

I watched the show with great intrest, I was very intrested if they could make up, but thinking about of course they were that was the idea of the show.

I did wonder about there winching methods "lets hold onto the cable while winching" umm not a good idea in my books?

[Vam]

TG, very irresponsible programme all about boys with expensive toys.

As a completely inexperienced 4x4 (I went once and loved it) even I could see how dangerous the blokes were with the winch and couldn't blame Clarkeson for clearing off while they got him out. I'd have done the same thing.

 Clarkeson is a notorious anti Nanny state devotee, which is why he loved the daftness of the H&S labels on the Viper  :twisted:

TG is known for Smart flash cars that the majority of us can never afford, so it shows them off in an 'unreal' format to make it fun rather than 'i'd never afford that so whats the point.  
Speeding in Wales, catapulting cars at caravans racing the train through France etc etc etc. It is a totally irresponsible programe, it makes learning about cars and their history fun and long may it continue in this format.

Helen

[orlando]

I presume the land they used was private - so in that case you'd have to argue that only the broadcasting of it might have been irresponsible.

[Dangermouse]

It was nice of them ramblers to come to the rescue me think's  :shock:





DM  :)

[V8MoneyPit]

Firstly, I ought to say that I didn't see TG this week. But, I think you would be able to find 'irresponsible' broadcasting in just about any programme if you look hard enough and believe people are stupid enough to copy it. The challenge for broadcasters is to find a balance and what we are looking at here is whether that balance has been tipped.

The only people capable of copying the TG article are those with 4x4's, most of which (proven to some extent by this discussion) are responsible human beings. Even those who have expressed the view that it made great television are not likely to go out and mimic it. I can't help thinking that those who carry out these acts of wanton destruction are already doing so and JC's use of private land will not make the slightest bit of difference.

The only area I can see being a problem, is that it may stand a vague chance of adding to the ammunition to ban 4x4's from the countryside. But I suspect that use of it would just be viewed with ridicule because it is simply a piece of commercial television, not a political statement.

Just my view  :)

[thermidorthelobster]

Don't forget to check out the other thread on this subject, as I can't be bothered to type all that again :)

[Andy.]

I can't believe it's not butter  :shock:

[Andy.]

Oh and if you watched the show, I'm watching the repeat again now, and you buy a new 2.7 ton Discovery get a sticker made up saying "I slow down for toads"  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[Vam]

I know we want one too! :twisted:
 ......the sticker not the D3
Helen

[oakeedokee]

Well I just hope some rambler does complain to the BBC...just to see the sort of flack Clarkson gives them back. Maybe he could test how many ramblers he could jump over in a dumper truck. That would be fun.

[muky-kid.]

Well I just hope some rambler does complain to the BBC...just to see the sort of flack Clarkson gives them back. Maybe he could test how many ramblers he could jump over in a dumper truck. That would be fun.

:lol:  Now that would be worth paying my t.v liecence for..... :lol:  :lol:

[Range Rover Blues]

Well I just hope some rambler does complain to the BBC...just to see the sort of flack Clarkson gives them back. Maybe he could test how many ramblers he could jump over in a dumper truck. That would be fun.

:lol:  Now that would be worth paying my t.v liecence for..... :lol:  :lol:

I remember once we were all pelting down a steep road in the peaks on mountain bikes when a bunch of ramblers coming up just stopped in the road and milled about in our way, just to be awkward.  I hit the brakes but most of my mates didn't, most just hopped onto the grass and kept going.  One or two put the bikes into a slide to slow down, they showered the selfish B******S with muck.

Trouble is most hikers are quite pleasant, they hold gates open so you don't have to get off your bike, they say hello, they smile.  It's always the bad one or two you remember and use as amunition to hate them!


Amunition..........          

      ....Thanks TG.

[fesuvious]

I think there should be a vote of :

I admire (nay - love) the TG spirit but maybe they could have presented the scaling of the mountain a bit better

Thats where my vote is

[datalas]

what I want to know is why is Eeyore suddenly making such wild, and deflamatory statements against squirrels :?

[Eeyore]

what I want to know is why is Eeyore suddenly making such wild, and deflamatory statements against squirrels :?

 :lol:

I...er.....um...well I.....er............um......

.......some of my best friends are squirrels?  8-[

[getting coat]

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

[keithdixon]

I think we are right in saying that there is something wrong with those squirrels


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[Tiny Tim]

Well the average land owner up there couldn't give two stuffs for a couple of furrows in a bit of peat bog.

Dammned sure they had permission, back up and ambulance.

I'm a big fan of TG and JC and enjoyed the program ...

but I do think the presentation was irresponsible
(if only for not editing out the careless winching practice).