Changes to MOT test

[Priglet]

I tried to MOT my 110 today and have found that as of last week I can no longer get a class 4 test because the weight limits have changed and I am now 50kg into being a commercial vehicle :x  :x

It doesn't seem to have been too well publicised as the tester didn't know until the system refused to allow my vehicle to be tested. Anyone else with a 110 station wagon, and possibly other large 4x4's, it's worth checking out which class your motor is before the test is due.

[beast5680]

dont talk to me about mot,s my disco failed today as the one life live it sticker was in the wrong place on the windscreen :roll:  i ask you flippin mot man seems to be a stickler for the book,

[Rich_P]

You should still have class 4, as it is a dual purpose vehicle!  Ask him to find out the exact details on this particular type of vehicle for the MOT.  It does not require a class 7 test.

EDIT:  Just re-read your post.  What's it say as the max gross on the V5?  The limit is 3,500kg for Class 4 I think.

[sleeplessparadise]

The limit for class iv is now 3000kg not 3500kg as previous and you may be over or under depending on whether you have levelled or unlevelled suspension according to land rover. If you have levelled your weight will be 3050kg and if you have unlevelled your weight will be 2950kg according to their weights

EDIT: was your 110 a van in a previous life? what is it classed as on your V5?

[Rich_P]

Mine went through its MOT as 3,500kg no problem and that's with this new computer system?

[07DefenderSeb]

What's the price difference in the two tests? :?

[V8MoneyPit]

Is it also age related? Most of these things relate to vehicles built or first used after a certain date.

Just found this which is quite interesting.
http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/motclass.htm

And here are all the official weights/sizes:
http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/Vehicles/Defender/Specifications/Defender_dimensions.htm#tableheading2

It appears that the Class 7 is only £3-£4 more than the Class 4 anyway. But the problem is that not all test centres can do a Class 7 MOT.

Edit: Just spoken to my local tame MOT tester who also happens to be a Land Rover guru. All Land Rovers with an unladen weight of less than 2040Kgs are classed as dual purpose and should only be tested as Class 4. But....
According to the LR figures, the SW has an unladen weight of 2055Kgs!! So the SW has to meet the other requirements of a dual purpose vehicle and it certainly meets this one:
if there is more than one such row of seats, the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the backrests of the rearmost such row) must, when the seats are ready for use, be not less than one third of the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the rearmost part of the floor of the vehicle.

[Priglet]

You should still have class 4, as it is a dual purpose vehicle!  Ask him to find out the exact details on this particular type of vehicle for the MOT.  It does not require a class 7 test.

EDIT:  Just re-read your post.  What's it say as the max gross on the V5?  The limit is 3,500kg for Class 4 I think.

was your 110 a van in a previous life? what is it classed as on your V5?

V5 has barely any info at all:

Land Rover
110 Defender SW TDI
Light 4x4 Utility
Private/Light Goods
2495 CC
Heavy Oil
2-Axle-Rigid Body
VIN No.
Engine No.
White.

Nothing about weights, mind you it doesn't know how many seats it has. As far as I'm aware it has always been a SW - although Land Rover owned it for the first 6,000 miles so who knows what they've done to it.

[Priglet]

Is it also age related? Most of these things relate to vehicles built or first used after a certain date.

Just found this which is quite interesting.
http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/motclass.htm

And here are all the official weights/sizes:
http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/Vehicles/Defender/Specifications/Defender_dimensions.htm#tableheading2

It appears that the Class 7 is only £3-£4 more than the Class 4 anyway. But the problem is that not all test centres can do a Class 7 MOT.

Thanks for finding all that out, I had a quick look and couldn't find anything so must obviously learn to look harder.  :oops:  :oops:

I've been told the Class 7 test is a bit tougher, which I suppose at the end of the day makes the motor safer, but I think I'll get it through a class 7 test this time then see if I can get VOSA to confirm, in writing, if I can have Class 4 tests in future.

Thanks to everyone for their input

[V8MoneyPit]

Just have another look at the last part of my post, mate. I edited it after you replied!! Your vehicle should, without question, meet the dual purpose requirements.

[hobbit]

Priglet pm for you

[muddydisco]

I tried to MOT my 110 today and have found that as of last week I can no longer get a class 4 test because the weight limits have changed and I am now 50kg into being a commercial vehicle :x  :x

It doesn't seem to have been too well publicised as the tester didn't know until the system refused to allow my vehicle to be tested. Anyone else with a 110 station wagon, and possibly other large 4x4's, it's worth checking out which class your motor is before the test is due.[/quote

I have not heard anything and i,m a class 4 & 7 mot tester

[freeagent]

take it to a landrover specialist, or at least a centre that can read the rules... i had all this wwith my old 110, when I took it to a local, and well known landy specialist (has big MOT test station, and does both class 7 and class 4 tests) he said "landrover don't build commercial vehicles, they build multi-purpose vehicles" as far as he's concerned, the only landies that might need class 7 are some defender 130's.... :?

my mate took his disco for its MOT the other day, and the local jobsworth testers failed him because his horn button was too wobbly... :roll:

there are some monkeys out there..........

[Range Rover Blues]

Apparently the price is going up again.

Stealth tax anyone?

[Dr Neil]

I think you'll find if you have a Class 7 test it won't be valid as it should have a class 4 test.Sooty had this problem with his 110 and he contacted VOSA who said it should have a class 4 test and was told a class 7 test would be no good and therefore a waste of time and money(certainly not valid.

It may be worth sending him a PM.

hope this helps

Neil....

[Priglet]

I've just had a phone call to say my motor has passed the class 7 test with no advisories :D  :D , looks like I better contact VOSA and see what they say about it and that it's valid

Cheers for everyones input :)

[Priglet]

Thanks for everyone's advice.

Having been in touch with VOSA I now have a class 4 certificate. Although there did seem to be a difference of opinion there about what class my motor is. I just find it hard to believe that the rules say a class 7 test is invalid even though it's stricter than a class 4 one.

Anyway thanks once again,