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« on: March 05, 2007, 18:55:15 »
After fitting 235 85 16's over a year ago i've got myself a spare the same size but it will not fit in the original position in the boot. :?
Any ideas on where to mount it please guys.

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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2007, 19:14:41 »
i've been having this dilemma as i also have a gas tank

best solution i could think of was on a roofrack, but be careful due to increased centre of gravity
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2007, 19:16:57 »
I got a gas tank and the 235/85/16 MT fits in there fine???


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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2007, 19:18:00 »
sling it in the boot and make a false floor and have storage boxes around it :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2007, 23:27:27 »
Swing away wheel carrier... not got a specific one in mind but I've seen them on RRC's before and they look good.

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2007, 08:38:36 »
thanks for the replies.

I dont really want to fit a roof rack.

Badgersrover,
I dont understand how  :?  Are you sure its a 85 profile and not a 75 ?
I have a 110 litre gas tank but this only stops me putting the spare in flat on the boot floor.When it sits in the well where they normally go the tailgate upper and lower part wont shut and also the top of the tyre hits the seatbelt reel.Gas tank isnt the problem.

I think i may just have to deflate it until it goes in.I carry an electric compressor and i also have the onboard compressor which used to be used for the air suspension which i have an air line attached to.

I did think of a swing away,does anyone have a picture of one on a range rover ?

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2007, 18:38:44 »
I think swingaways look ugly, plus they mean drilling the bodywork.  My large spare either goes;
1)in someone alse's car when I'm laning
2) I don't bother, i carry a can of instant tyre fix and if I'm laning I'll nick Tim's spare :lol:
3) I rest it on the LPG tank and strap it down, the spare wheel well is handy as a tool box.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2007, 20:27:17 »
:lol: I have the same problem at the moment its laid down with ammo boxes around for storage and parcel shelf just sat on top only a problem if i have to put somat big and bulky in the back without notice  :evil:  :evil: !!

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 20:33:18 »
Don't put it on the roof I've got a 33/12.5/15 up there and it nearly killed me lifting it down but mines a bobtail so nowhere to put it.Pete

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2007, 20:47:18 »
dont use a swing away ok for the road but no good off road smashed all the back panel in on mine when the swing away grounded out best bet is the roof hard work to get it up but you need to put it in the center of the roof , seen one once mounted on the bonet !!!

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2007, 21:55:18 »
I find a 7.50r16 spare fits laid flat on the floor with a tool box, an ammo box, 1 soket set box, 3 1m*38mm boards, spade, hi-lift, recovery ropes...

It requires careful placeing, but it all fits snuggly so it doesn't move about too much when off road.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2007, 22:45:57 »
What about on the bonnet,series style :?:  :?:
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 08:10:34 »
bonnet  :?  not sure.Cant see where your going  :shock:
I don't know what to do now.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 13:33:38 »
Without the LPG tank mine would lay on the boot floor, plenty of space for the shopping but no-where for the dogs so when the LPG tank goes I'll ratchet-strap it to the dog-guard, stood up behind the seats.

If you want to put it on the bonnet you'll need to strengthen it quite a lot.  And forget checking the oil regularly :shock:
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 19:16:38 »
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Without the LPG tank mine would lay on the boot floor, plenty of space for the shopping but no-where for the dogs so when the LPG tank goes I'll ratchet-strap it to the dog-guard, stood up behind the seats.

If you want to put it on the bonnet you'll need to strengthen it quite a lot.  And forget checking the oil regularly :shock:


I agree,No tank it would fit as you said,flat on floor or flat back stood up.
The amount of time im under the bonnet its not a good idea to have it on there either.
If id have left the standard size spare in there and had to use it,i thought it would damage the diff or transfer box,is this true ?
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 22:26:08 »
It would put starin on the viscous coupling, the axle diffs wouldn't mind though, not as much as the scuffers might if they saw you :wink:
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2007, 12:28:55 »
How about that tyre gunk stuff ??
Does it work,i could get rid of the spare then completely.
A friend at work has used a product that you actually put into your tyre before you get a puncture,so that when you do it seals it up.He uses it on a high performance motorbike.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2007, 14:04:38 »
d by a lot of LPG installers too and it can prolong the life of your tyres becasue it help them cool when driving.  I was put off by having to buy 2 bottles for my tyres as they are so big, it's not cheap but is a good ifea I guess.

It's not supposed to affect the balance.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2007, 14:47:40 »
My mate said i'd probably need 2 bottles as he only uses approx 3/4 of a bottle in a bike tyre.About £15 a bottle also  :shock:

How about those that  are in a cylinder and are supposed to seal and inflate ?
I could top up what it doesnt with the compressor
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2007, 16:19:48 »
That's what I carry, it will work on the trailer then too.
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2007, 13:14:28 »
nice one ,problem solved :D
I'll just take it out and get some tyre foam stuff.

thanks for the ideas guys.

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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2007, 23:24:27 »
Bonnet isn't strong enough, you can't see over it, and it will fall on your head & kill you when you're under the bonnet because the bonnet stay isn't strong enough. Swing-aways put a lot of weight a long way back on a vehicle that already has a large rear overhang & tends to ground out on the tow hitch. Discos have heavy duty rear springs to cope with the spare. The only solution I found practical was to stand it behing the front passenger seat, chocked & strapped to stop it rolling, & preferably with a cover on it to protect the seat. This keeps the c.o.g down, & the weight between the wheels, and its easy to get at when you need it, - but you'll have to cut the legs off rear seat passengers.

The aerosol repair kits are fine until you rip the tyre, and you'll need 2 for a RR tyre. If you have an on board compressor then deflating the tyre a putting it in the standard wheel well is a good solution, but best with a tubed tyre - you don't want to go to inflate your tubeless spare & find the bead has come away from the rim while its been jammed in the back, so it won't inflate! The other option of course is to use a standard tyre, or a 235/70 which will fit in the wheel well, as a get me home spare. Best of luck .....

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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2007, 14:56:15 »
The last time i used the gunk in an areosle, it only put 20 psi into a 205r16 which was ok for the 3 mile to an airline but not really get you home capable for 4x4 tyres. But hey thats another reason why it won't be long before I have an engine driven air compressor.

I'm not sure what it cost, but we had a drum of industrial/agricultural tyre gunk, the last of which found its way into my BFGs. It has cured the slow puncture in one of them nicely (re seating tubeless tyres is a pain in the a***).
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2007, 01:50:55 »
well,ive got the compressor from the redundant air suspension linked to an air line and i also carry an electric comperssor so the gunk stuff should be good,even if it needs more inflating.
Spare tyre behind the passenger seat edmason   :(biglaugh):     Where will my passengers sit !  :D
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2007, 09:20:53 »
Fit one to the front of your bull bar, you'd lose the spots, but have a great pedestrian repeller :D
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2007, 12:54:53 »
lol,it don't look like that anymore,no bull bar.
That picture is when i first bought it with air suspension and id just put the new tyres on.Now its battered to bits with an off roading ding to every panel and scrapes all over.

Heres a recent pic :






i've since put a winch bumper on the front also.
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2007, 19:08:39 »
Still looks loverly.

Have you got the original bull-bar or did you weigh it in?
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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2007, 19:01:07 »
Nah its gone,i bent it to death when i got stuck and needed a tow .The previous owner had removed the front towing loops so i had no choice.
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2007, 23:10:31 »
So can any one just clarifie, I have 245 70 16 on my Range with the spear beening 235 70 16 if I have a flat and put the spear on will it break anything, bearing in mind that I will have a 200 mile trip home on road if I get a flat while green laning in wales!

and where do you get this puncture repair stuff from

Thanks Jonny

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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2007, 20:18:59 »
standard spare wheel is i believe a 205 85 16.
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