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PIC'S of a standard 413 samurai carb fitted please!
« on: March 14, 2007, 23:55:42 »
I have a SU carb on my sammy and going to put original carb back on. Not a clue where all the vaccum hoses go so pictures would be well appreciated!!

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2007, 09:35:34 »
Fisrt question Why????
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2007, 10:58:23 »
Well, i bought myself a Samurai at the weekend- it has a SU carb on it but it runs really terrible, wouldn't manage to climb any sort of hill- it bogs down badly!

Basically i was wanting to start all over, go back to how it was designed and then do things myself. If i get it running good as standard i'll take things from there.

Its mainly the vaccum hoses i need to know where they go as theres 2 sort of valves on the inlet each with 2 vaccum pipe fittings, and then theres another 2 outlets on the inlet itself, one which splits into 2!

So thats 7 vaccum pipes i dont have a clue where they go  :roll:

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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 11:59:30 »
Not to p*ss on your bonfire or anything....

Most people bin the standard carb because as soon as they start going wrong they are damn near impossible to fix and whilst you may be lucky and get a good one i can bet that given a few weeks of rough treatment and it will start to go wrong.

Whereas the Su is a gem of a carb.....if i was you i would persist with the SU.Did it run ok when you got it,is the carb the correct one(should be a HIF44 with a BDL needle)......Stupid question i know its not suffering from carb icing is it?
Scoobystu is the resident SU expert may be worth a PM

Good luck if you are refitting the standard carb

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 12:23:23 »
ok, if thats the views on them then ill try to sort the SU out!

Right, where do i see these codes, guess itll be stamped on the needle?

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007, 11:49:24 »
Suzukitech   http://www.suzukitech.org/ have a carb section may be worth a quick look to help set it up

I think the code you are looking for is FZX1409 normally on a little plates attached to the carb, normally found on 1.3 metros and maestroes

try the codes in here http://burlen.co.uk/store.aspx

Suzukiclubuk have a section on modifying the SU vac advance this could also help with your stalling problems

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2007, 13:31:59 »
Just checked, mines is an FZX 1414.

Looked it up on that link, it has:

Carburetter: FZX 1414 Total Carbs: 1
Make: Metro Model: 1000
Year: 1982 - 1982 Engine: 1000cc HLE
Set Part No:  Type: HIF38


Is that my problem?  The one you stated is for a 1300, mines is for a 1000!

Hmmm.... Is the HIF44 a 44mm body and HIF 38mm?

So ill at least have worse off performance than the HIF44..

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2007, 15:03:05 »
If your motor is a 1300 (if its a sammy it must be) then you need the HIF44, no wonder it was running poorly...... :(

The HIF38 is for a 1 litre

nip down the scrappys and get a hif44.......

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